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This thing about them not getting the promised reward needs to go viral so in the future whenever someone’s thinking of turning someone in to get the reward money, they’ll know they’re highly unlikely to get a damn thing.
The average citizen doesn’t know, care, or even understand. Nor do they want to.
That’s why everyone who cares needs to spread the word.
People don’t need to care. They might share it as a fun factoid, they might just say that’s crazy and never think about it again
Until they’re in a position to get a reward… They’ll care then. That little idea they heard in passing will pop up… Maybe it gives them pause.
$10k is pretty tempting for a lot of people…a chance at a $10k reward they’ve heard rarely is paid out is a lot less tempting
Maybe they Google it first, maybe they think twice about if the crime is worth reporting. Maybe they see the world in black and white and believe it to be their duty
It’s worth spreading some information, even to people that don’t care
The average can shift marginally over time and this is a good start.
It’s also (probably) not true.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
At this point, we don’t know if it’s true or how true. The odds of them getting the whole $60k is very low, but they might eventually get something out of it, depending on if/when he’s convicted, how much of it they decide to award, and how many other tipsters it would be split with. And then of course, after taxes are deducted!
Since the issue has gotten some publicity and people may be checking up on it, they’re probably more likely to give them at least something in this case. But whatever the truth is doesn’t matter much these days – the article stating they might not get it is out there, got attention, and I’m saying it should get more attention. People shouldn’t be fooled when they hear a number and believe they will actually just be handed all that money when they call in their tip.
Here y’go: free fries with your purchase of a BigMac. Thanks for supporting law enforcement.
I didn’t hear about this. Is there an article you can link or something?
This one was posted further up. The tl;dr is that because they didn’t call the NYPD tip line, they definitely* won’t get the $10,000 from them, barring major backlash that may make them walk that back.
The $50,000 from the FBI is up in the air, but is dependent on him getting convicted. There’s some wording that someone else pointed to about the tip needing to lead to an arrest AND conviction, saying that because the tip itself only lead to the arrest, they won’t be paid, but I’m uncertain about that.
I mentioned in another comment that if the 1% want us to keep snitching, these high profile situations kinda need to pay out.
Its pure conjecture, there is no one saying they wont be paid, just some “journalists” saying maybe he wont be paid.
Maybe this might be one of those cases where fuck the truth of the matter, we should just spread this conjecture as truth. Snitches should imagine stitches not riches.
It’s gone viral on several meme pages I follow on Facebook…
Also if this employee doesn’t get rewarded for the tip-off that led to Luigi’s arrest, what kind of message is that going to send to the public about law enforcement? It’s just going to reinforce the already-growing ACAB narrative and make people distrust the police even further…
Heck, the very real possibility of being publicly outed, shamed, harassed and threatened for being the one to rat on Luigi, and not getting the promised $60,000 reward could end up radicalising more people.
Wait for the next step: the franchise fires the employee because of several 1 star reviews and death threats
I’m pretty sure it’s already corporate policy to not question people abour fake bills or do anything to stop shoplifters (because insured and liability). Wouldn’t be surprised if a new corporate policy crops up if something like that does happen
Can confirm… store manager.
I joke that our policy for shoplifters is to offer them a bag.
In reality it’s to offer them a cart as a non accusatory way of saying “I see you”
As for bills I had my boss suggest I take them to the bank. I had to clarify “and I tell them I believe there is a counterfeit in there… Right … Otherwise it’s dangerously close to trying to pass a counterfeit myself… A felony…”
He paused and answered “sure if that makes you more comfortable”
To be clear I understand and agree with a lot of it. Why should I ask my workers to risk their life over some toothpaste? Why should I ask them to risk their life confronting a counterfeiter who is already done commiting felonies.
I also understand it doesn’t help the company. One dead worker will cost the company more than all the product a person could steal. Even with insurance the cost of training even a cashier is nearly $1000. It goes up from there.
It is still frustrating and my employees often take a lot of training to convince them not to care if someone is stealing.
And customers also get frustrated when they tell me someone is stealing and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate " and go back to work.
and I give them an answer like "that’s unfortunate "
You might want to also let them know that “we’re insured for this” and that “nobody is going to lose their job over this, so let’s not lose our heads, either.”
Also, it’ll go a long way to acknowledge how unfair it is that an employee doing the same thing is completely different.
I’ve been told flat out the cameras are to watch employees
I’ve never worked at McDonald’s but I know for a fact that pizza hut had a policy of not pursuing thieves, we were explicitly told not to do it.
At one point somebody did walk out without paying and the manager yelled at everyone, because literally none of us noticed. But he couldn’t really do anything to us about it because corporate policy was that we weren’t supposed to do anything, even though obviously he wanted us to have done something.
Off topic but I was a manager of a pizza hut for a while. Drove my district manager nuts with technicalities.
“How many pepperonis go on a large one topping?”
“I look at the chart”
“As a store manager you should have it memorized!”
“As a store manager I have the training manual memorized. It says to look at the chart each and every time you make a pie. It specifically discourages memorizing the portion control. look at the chart every time.”
The answer he wanted was 56 back then btw. 56 pepperoni on a large one topping. I still remember that. The correct answer was “look at the chart” so that was the only answer I gave him.
Another funny story, it was my first food service job. He yelled at me for using the sanitizing cloth from the pizza area on the wing area. Cross contamination, I know that now.
I told him I didn’t know about cross contamination and that it was my first job in food service.
He yelled “I trained you myself”
I replied “yeah … I wasn’t going to mention that but you did train me yourself… Yet here I am not knowing anything about the concept of cross contamination… Maybe more time should be devoted to that in the future”
He did not like me lol
Edit: I had been a retail manager for a few years and got hired on as a store manager for pizza hut. I was vocal that I had zero experience with food. I don’t even cook for myself. I microwave or order food. I know it sounds silly now that I didn’t know anything about cross contamination. I didn’t know, he hired me, he didn’t explain it during training. Call me stupid for not knowing, that’s fine. Hes responsible for making sure I knew, he was my trainer. That’s his fault. I’m still a manger (retail again) and it is very much my job to train my crew properly and never assume something is “common sense”. If it’s important you go over it in training… But I guess I never trained any of my cashiers to not throw poop at customers I just assume that’s common sense… So I guess there’s that flaw in my theory lol
Oh I wouldn’t worry about it I grew up extremely privileged and when my parents insisted I actually got a job I really didn’t understand the concept of being paid. I didn’t quite understand why anybody cared about that because the money was so insignificant, why would anybody care about it?
I was a really stupid kid. At one point I worked at a petrol station (gas station) for free because I didn’t really understand what jobs were for.
I was a really really stupid kid.
I totally get that. After pizza hut I worked for 4 months at a dominos franchise with my friend Kayla. The franchise owner would bring his son around sometimes. He was probably around 17-18. To be clear they were rich. Franchise owner of a dominos doesn’t sound like much but he owned like 10 including the one we worked at on international drive in Orlando Florida. It’s like the Vegas strip of Florida.
Anyway his son loved hanging out with Kayla and I because we didn’t give one single shit that he was the owners son. He thought it was wild that i would be a total smartass to his dad…Also Kayla was pretty hot. I’m asexual so we were only just friends but the boy clearly had a crush
Anyway some conversations I remember that shocked his son
His dad: I need the key to the cash drawer Me: it’s my drawer, only mine. I can ring the customer up. Dad: I’m not going to steal from my own business- Me: you’re divorced right? so you understand that mistakes happen even with the best intentions? No. You can’t have my key
Manager meeting at ale house.
Other managers order
Me: I’ll have a double scotch in water and (burger order)
Owners son: can we drink at this meeting?
Me: I can because I’m over 21 lol
Owner: no one can drink. It’s an employee meeting. Waiter cancel the scotch.
Me: I’m sorry Is this a paid meeting?
Owner: no it’s team building
Me: but you’re paying for all of our orders at least?
Owner: no, you aren’t required to order food if you don’t want to. It’s just an option that you can choose.
Me: cool. Since it’s my time and my money I choose to order a double scotch with water.
Kayla: I’ll take a margarita with my order.
Sorry I don’t have any real point I’m making. Just reminiscing. And yes scotch in water is a real drink. It’s not a common drink but it’s been around as long as scotch has. It brings out the more subtle flavors of the scotch.
Hope so…
Is it just me that doesn’t believe the McDonald’s employee thing? I think they used a Pegasus or Stingray type privacy violating device/exploit and just said it was a restaurant employee.
Or they pretended to be a customer and said to the employee, “Gee, that guy really looks a lot like the killer, doesn’t he, ha ha wouldn’t that be funny, anyway give me a big mac and fries. He does look like him though.”
Nancy the wage slave called him in but the fat boomer they ran articles with is the fed?
100% the whole story is too convenien lul.
Pegasus is a scalpel. Needs to be applied and targeted. Stingray is old news and common. It is a catch all.
Was this used? Given how much money could have been thrown at it, very likely.
Anyone have a citation about the rat not getting the money? People keep saying that, but I haven’t seen a single article posted about it.
this doesn’t really add to the discussion, but i just wanted to say thanks for sharing a source. I feel like i don’t see it enough, so i appreciate you taking the time to share it
I don’t feel like you need to
apologize forexcuse saying a heartfelt thank you with a text comment, just because it doesn’t add to the discussion. We need more of this kindness in the world. ❤️you can pry my kindness from my cold dead hands
Yeah, well, that realy doesn’t add anything to the discussion.
both the arrest and conviction of the suspect
Makes perfect sense, but that’s just a matter of time.
might not be eligible for [the NYPD] part of the reward.
OK, so maybe they won’t be getting 10k of the 60k. They would still get 50k if he’s convicted. So many people are definitively saying that they’re getting none of the money, and that makes no sense.
The tip didn’t contribute to conviction, only the arrest. The words “both” and “and” rather than “consequent” are explicit.
The rat won’t be paid.
And people say that McDonald’s never produced anything delicious.
“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”
Yeah its good to be skeptical of something like this that everyone wants to be true.
I don’t have a citation. But I do believe that you’d normally have to wait for a conviction before getting the reward. Otherwise it could be the wrong guy.
I was thinking the same thing. So why is everyone on Lemmy saying “The snitch didn’t even get the money, so they did it for nothing!”
Because they didn’t read any of the sources and just heard about the NYPD requirement that they call the tip line, which they didn’t do, so unless there’s some major backlash, they definitely won’t be getting $10,000 of the reward.
The other $50,000 from the FBI we’re all kinda assuming will have some other reason to not be paid out, but if we’re being honest, if the 1% want us to continue turning on each other in the future, they’re gonna have to let these high profile snitching cases go through.
There isn’t actually any citation for this, there is however a bunch of articles written pointing to the red tape around reward money and saying “maybe” he wont be paid. But so far I havnt seen anything that shows this as more than conjecture
Also this snitch not being paid would be the dumbest fucking move imaginable if their goal is to have murdering Capitalists not be the new trend.
Do a favor for the cops, they give you nothing and often end up revealing who you are, sometimes by accident.
Do a favor for the mafia and they do one for you
*Supposed killer
He’s only a suspect at the moment
Too many people forget this part. Luigi Mangione is, until proven otherwise, innocent. The police, the same people who have spent decades killing them people (especially minorities) and planting evidence, largely with impunity, are alleging that he is the one who did it. Luigi is likely a victim of the health insurance industry but, until it is proven otherwise, he and the shooter are two separate individuals.
People with a lot of wealth and power want to put a bow on this to prevent more frustration from being directed at them.
allegedly
Allegedly a suspect?
We all know that snitches get stitches, always. What you may not know (and Snitching Joe just found out) is that the stitches are sometimes metaphorical.
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Audiodegradant. Lossless compression exists for decades.
Degradant?
Lossless compression exists for decades.
I know 😄 Just making a joke.
Police: Here’s 10, thousand dollars! Thanks for the tip!
The fed: oh I see you made some extra money, Here’s your entire one thousand dollars after tax!
How much money does a McDonald’s employee in the US make to be in the 90% tax bracket? I’m jealous.
Sales tax: yes that’ll be 11% thanks!
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I hope someone put the dude face on the internet so everyone knows where to spit when they pass by him
Wasn’t a dude, some old lady, she’s been chased off social media and threatened.
Good
the grandson of a wealthy real estate developer, valedictorian of an elite Baltimore prep school, and STEM graduate from a top university goes insane from back pain and assassinates a powerful CEO a small ways from a Hilton; all the while pretending he is doing it for everyday Americans… Luigi is not hero, he’s a poser. Him getting arrested is the perfect end to this story: the rich eating the rich and all going to hell together. Whoever reported him to the police is the real hero.
Lol ok putibot
The sad thing is the rat will get their money if Mangione is convicted (and he most probably will even if he’s just a scapegoat). Even if the responsible office will block the reward, some CEO will jump in and hand him way more than the 60k. Maybe they’ll fabricate it into a heatwarming christmas story with some sad background stories of the rat and how they’re now able to pay off the mortgage of their parents home or something.
I do not know of any generous rich people.
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Oh, you probably meant non-fictional. Nvmd.
There are actually more details involving where the rewards come from and the existence of an evaluation process, i.e. you don’t just make a phone call and somebody hands you a pile of cash. That’s how rewards have always worked. But anything beyond a meme-level thought process is super boring, right? Gotta make an instant value judgement, congratulate yourself for uncovering injustice, and scroll on to the next item in the feed.
And somehow we still expect elections to produce meaningful results.
Columbine kicked off an epidemic of school shootings because of the attention it got. Some people need a focus for their misery and I am not ashamed to say that I would rather see heartless corporate executives fear for their safety instead of school children gunned down as they hide in a closet. Just putting that out there.
Workplace shootings are nothing new. Where do you think the term Going Postal comes from?
Damn I thought it was the hit game POSTAL 2
Watch the Postal movie for a real wtf humor/horror experience. I enjoyed it, but it’s a sensitivity PR nightmare.
In this regard, all the media attention might be a good thing. I haven’t seen this much coverage since that runaway bride horse shit 15 years ago.
I am glad to know I’m not alone in this line of thinking!
Hello lonely young men with something to prove, have you seen how much positive attention Luigi got
I’ve got very few long term prospects, very little empathy for the undeserving wealthy, and a whole lot of spare time.
Ladies, look out 😎
Well yeah, don’t you remember game theory talking about how big his cock is?
Luigi got attention for being arrested, the police are the ones alleging that he was the one who shot the CEO.
well im lonely but i dont want to goto jail.
Just avoid eating inside restaurants for awhile.
This convo is heavy sarcasm, no person should do something stupid based on shit read online.
But school shootings are bad thing to do though
we are not talking about school shootings.
Hey kids.
Don’t shoot a school.
Shoot a CEO instead.
So what you’re saying is if the collective can set Luigi free then you might be okay with the deal?
no ill miss my computer too much but it is tempting.
You can’t miss your computer if you die guns blazing or drive off a cliff
depends what situation id get myself into. I’m fond of being alive currently.
In Heaven all those ads promising a “Free Alienware” if you just fill out a survey are actually true.
It really would be a strange kind of uniquely American poetry if our school shooting problem inverted itself into a megacorp CEO shooting solution.
If a few more CEOs gets off’d, they’ll ram gun control legislation through congress faster than Trump can wolf down a Big Mac.
Historically it’s been threats to the owner / controller class that have produced serious gun control legislation in the US, so you are probably right! But if you mean actual confiscation a la Australia, pretty sure that’s off the table here. Sincerely think it’d spark a war no matter who sincerely attempts it or why.
The cat is out of the bag, no? 3d printing guns is a bit of a Pandoras box in regards to gun control. Especially in America where it has been legal for so long
Federally legal. I didn’t realize it but like 14 states outlaw them and others have prohibitions on parts of them. Honestly, I’m impressed it didn’t break. The idea of making one makes me nervous over safety. I haven’t even been brave enough to print a stock or foreguard simply out of concern. I also don’t trust aluminum casings (if a shell splits it’s likely damaging the barrel or receiver).
A papercut that draws blue blood is a bigger issue to these freaks than a river of poor corpses.
Given that the guy used a (partially) 3D-printed gun, I just can’t fucking wait to see how the overbroad knee-jerk restrictions are going to impact the hobbyist maker space.
I think they said that Luigi had a ghost gun, partially 3D printed? Of course he didn’t make the bullets so maybe that’ll matter.
That would be quite a lot of gun control, especially for the US. Even in the UK you can buy ammo, I’m not sure why because your certainly not allowed a gun.
Or they just make it easier for CEOs to get and carry guns.
shit, i would say school shootings are endemic now.
Only in America. Where there’s guns, there’s accidental death.
I say ban the guns so the vigilantes need to use cricket bats. Sell the surveillance tapes for PPV.
Take it else where to do this circle jerk.
Stay on topic please. Brian was a prasite. Nothing to do with us fire arm laws.
Hey, those tapes are community property. Stop trying to commercialize justice.
School shootings are very intentional, not accidental.
Banning guns isn’t going to make 500 million firearms disappear, it’ll just take them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.
“Nothing can be done to prevent this.”
-The only country where this regularly happensVery original.
The classics are classics for a reason.
It’s not wrong.
Of course something can be done to prevent it, but just blanket banning things is a horrible policy, and always has been. Or do you think the war on drugs was a smashing success? Drugs went away, and so did all the problems associated with them. Right? Right guys? Right?
How do I upvote AND downvote a comment at the same time?
I really hope Jo Miran is an alias.
Maybe of the Buckee’s beaver?
This is why you don’t snitch. The powers that be don’t care about you, have no intention to do right by you, and will actively look for ways to avoid you after they are done with you.
I always wondered about WitSec. How long does the protection last? After trial, then what?
What was it again, Deny, Delay, …
Dispose?
The original is delay, deny, defend.
The one that was on the cartridge casing when the CEO was terminated was, delay, deny, depose.
The act of deposing a person, by one definition is to “remove from office suddenly and forcefully”
IMO, that’s the meaning behind the use of “depose” here.
There’s also legal depositions which are a very different thing entirely. From what I’ve heard, Luigi had a lot of experience with delay and deny. I dunno how much of what I’ve heard is true, and how much is just a game of telephone gone wrong.
Dispose was a joke answer but I appreciate the extra detail
Are you sure about that?
I didn’t think they recovered one with “delay”
The problem is that the first reports of what was written on the casings was wrong, and later corrections are mixed in with the original misreported text.
So there’s a lot of misunderstandings about what they said.
I’m not saying my information is 100% accurate; but I’m not willing to wade through the neverending sea of news articles that care more about clicks than accuracy to figure it out.
In any case, good luck and have a good day!
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