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    So of course Musk immediately threatens to “give her a child”. Like a normal not weird person.

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    Look, I am not a billionaire loving guy anymore than some of you are.

    But has anyone here considered that Musk has made an impact on the views of young white men (whom also happen to be Republican and Conservative or Proud Boys?

    Does it bother us that these men follow a billionaire who doesn’t give two shits about them? Yes.

    Do I care that Taylor Swift is the opposite of that and encourages young women and men, be it black, gay, trans, etc to be opposite end of that spectrum. Fuck yes, we shouldn’t base our views off the rich but has it ever occurred to anyone here that it is using those billionairs to represent and have them be vocal with the power they hold with our views instead?

    I will absolutely take Taylor Swift speaking up and saying what she believes in and her giving that voice to 100000+ people whose only voice is heard in a vote if her speaking up also encourages people to say fuck Trump and and Musk and every fucking dumb ass on this post that thinks Taylor speaking out is a bad thing by comparison to it somehow being worse then what they already do with Musk.

    Fuckem, fuck billionaires, but God damn keep fucking roasting them TSwiftie.

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      If I had a platform that millions of people listened to (which I don’t), and strongly held beliefs about how the country could be made better for everyone (which I do), why wouldn’t I use my platform to share those beliefs? How could I not?

      No one MUST obey what either of them says, just like no one would be compelled to obey me in my hypothetical. But I don’t really have a problem with any person using whatever platform they’ve found themselves with to express their own beliefs and desires. I don’t think people lose the right to free expression just because they are rich and/or famous and/or powerful.

      Edit: And if you piss a lot of people off and lose all your advertisers because your opinions are repugnant and awful - well hey, that’s the choice you made.

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        Ironically, Taylor Swift was, up to this point, trying very hard NOT to use her platform. Just read her post. She’s BEGGING the reader not to blindly follow her in voting, and do their own research and make their own choice. She’d said she’d wait until after her tour to endorse a candidate (which would have been after the election 🤣 ), but she says in her post that the AI DeepFake Endorsement she ‘made’ of Trump compelled her to give up her secret ballot and outright state she’s voting for Harris.

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          Great point and apologies for glossing over that. I guess my reply just blurred into my general opinion about people dismissing or being grumpy about “celebrity” endorsements or political statements.

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            I hear ya. Yeah, I do agree with ‘you shouldn’t make a political opinion based on what a celebrity does,’ but the reality is that people might waiver until they hear someone they like and trust (like a celebrity) makes a decision. Sad fact of life in this popularity contest we call a political system. ;)

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        why wouldn’t I use my platform to share those beliefs?

        I think it’s perfectly valid to say “the system that gave me this platform is unfair and I shouldn’t have benefited from it to the degree that I have, but I have the platform now so I’m going to use it for good.”

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      I’m not down with billionaires either, but at least she’s using her fame and money towards some good things.

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        It’s one of the very few ethical ways to become a billionaire I think. If you sell an album or book for $10, and you’re a global sensation, it’s reasonable you’ll get 100 million people buying it. It just falls on you then to use that money for his good reasons and adequately compensate people who support you. And Swift has generally been really good about that.

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          Yes, agreed. I do think overall that being a billionaire necessitates someone else (lots of someone elses) getting the shaft. But there are degrees of… billionairism, and she is on the right side of that, albeit still a billionaire.

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      every fucking dumb ass on this post that thinks Taylor speaking out is a bad thing by comparison to it somehow being worse then what they already do with Musk.

      If your political opinion is swayed by either a pop star or a billionaire, you’re kinda a dumb ass. Full stop.

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    I love the focus on the ‘childless cat lady’ line.

    I think that line epitomises the pointless spite that characterises MAGAism. The constant bullying and insults are entirely unnecessary to their agenda but they just can’t stop themselves, and if we end up post-November with them wondering how things might have gone had they not insulted tons of voters this way then I’ll find that delicious.

    I suppose the counterpoint is that the insults and bullying might well be necessary, that their ‘othering’ and painting opponents as lesser, more ridiculous, less human enemies is a core part of how such populist fascist movements gain traction. “The cruelty is the point,” as some say.

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      It’s totally the point. The problem is they are running out of “outsider” groups they can demonize effectively so they have turned towards their own potential voters (mainly women).

      As much as they want to turn transgender people into the new jews, most people just don’t have that much of a problem with them.

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        IMHO it’s harder to demonize a group that might include your son or daughter. Their racism persists because there are no white people who discover that they’ve actually been black their whole lives.

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          Although, I bet if those racist assholes took DNA tests many of them would find they did have some African-American blood, especially if they were from the South.

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      The constant bullying and insults are entirely unnecessary to their agenda

      The constant bullying and insults are the very core of fascist strategy.

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          Average americans and thinking that a national holiday means anything. I’ve worked the majority of the holidays for the past 10 years. They don’t even count for overtime unless the policies (sort of contract) of the employer state they do.

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            Yes, it happens, but the majority of American workers still had Labor Day off this year.

            It would have a measurable impact on voter turnout.

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              The people who can get holidays off are generally the people who have the means to vote otherwise.

              Until the last few years, the only time I had holidays off were if I could get someone to switch with me, meaning at least someone was working that day.

              Labor day didn’t mean shit to me working at fast food, and retail has sales instead of closing.

              Walmart ain’t closed on labor day and neither is McDonald’s.

              That’s the first and second largest employers in the world, not respecting the holiday literally made for their employees.

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    Some folks here really seem to think that her fans don’t have any political opinions without her. This is actually as much about her politically engaged fan base wanting her to use her platform for good, than it is about swaying people who might be very young or unsure about voting.

    Lots of swifties are millenials who lean left and liberal and some have criticized her in the past for not speaking up or for leaving her views ambiguous in a way that left room for the right to coopt her image. This is not about silly pop fans needing to be told what to think. People aren’t ignorant. It’s exactly because she’s powerful and very wealthy, that it’s important for her to use her power to be very clear about where she stands. Especially in light of the ai thing and the Brittany Mahomes weirdness.

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    Dear Trump

    We, are never ever ever, getting back together.

    Sincerely, The White House

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    Been waiting for this since Trump decided to attack her and her fanbase, and misuse her image without her permission.

    Go on, you MAGA idiots, start shouting at Taylor Swift. I dare you.

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    Why on earth would he poke that bear?

    Taylor Swift absolutely can drive voter registrations at levels that would easily supersede the 10-20k that swing states will be decided by, just based on her word. And her fanbase spreads across multiple demographics.

    I’d be shocked if her announcement alone doesn’t drive 100k registrations nationwide in the next 48 hours.

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    So I’m going to go out on a limb and say this debate went better for Dems. Bold, I know.

    Seriously, though. Wow. At least I’ll be able to sleep tonight.