Nintendo isn’t getting another penny from me after what they did to the switch emulation projects.
You can still emulate everything. Newest version will work just fine for the indefinite future
Much to Nintendo’s dismay
… what they “momentarily” did to “that” em project, you mean.
I’m done giving money to Nintendo. Their litigious behavior is inexcusable. Just ask the parrot on my shoulder. He’s on the same side as my eye patch.
1080p on such a small screen is pointless, but if you’re into that by the price of one Nintendo game you can upgrade your steam deck screen https://www.deckhd.com/
120Hz is not that different from the decks 90Hz screen, although if you chose to do the upgrade above that downgrades you to 60.
Mouse mode, not sure what that is, but the deck has the best of it’s kind mouse emulation so I think it will be hard for the switch to compete.
Plus I get to keep my games, and whenever the SD2 comes out I’ll get to keep my games and not have to buy them again.
I would just like to remind everyone that Nintendo was predatory when EA and Activision were the good(ish) guys.
Dont at me.
Nuck Findendo. They’re assholes who kick the ladder out from underneath them
You are allowed to swear here. No need to self-censor.
They could bust je passionate about spoonerisms
Yee I just thought it was funny
Yeah you can say the N word
Because the only thing who interacted with it in 3 hours didn't get the joke
Nintendo
Swear words and racist words are different
assholes
I think they know that.
This is probably the only time Nintendo has come out of the gate with superior hardware and I actually don’t give a shit, why on earth would I want to buy a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control and price gouging?
I don’t give a shit how fast the scrreen refreshes or how fancy some of the features, I want a computer that can play games, I don’t want a toy that is purposefully broken so I can’t use it for things I want to use it for, ESPECIALLY if I drop hundreds and hundreds of dollars on it.
Nope.
I understand why you think this, but its kind of wrong. Because Nintendo has had the upper hand with hardware many times.
- SNES was arguably better than Genesis system
- N64 has much more raw power than my favorite system the PS1
- GameCube was stronger than PS2 and Dreamcast
And yes, I’ll just wait and use my steam deck until SD2, because I also just want a computer that I can play games on.
SNES was arguably better than Genesis system
The SNES and Genesis were comparable. You could argue one or the other, but it was a tighter race than the Playstation 3 curb-stomping the Wii.
N64 has much more raw power than my favorite system the PS1
Playstation had CD-ROM, and that’s all that needs to be said about that battle.
GameCube was stronger than PS2 and Dreamcast
Comparing the GameCube with the PS2, it had less VRAM, less RAM, a faster CPU, roughly equiv video processor. I would say they were about equal, and that’s with GameCube coming out two years later.
The PS2 was also the strongest console to ever fight in any sort of console war, with its ridiculously large library of games. PS2 punished Sega so hard they permanent removed themselves out of the race, and Nintendo had to completely change strategies to fill a different niche and audience, which worked with the Wii. However, that came with the dumbing down of hardware that everybody is talking about. They have been pushing shitty outdated hardware ever since.
Ah yes, console released over 30 years ago.
I stand corrected, I guess I was comparing the gamecube to an xbox, but yeah agreed, I just bought a second steam deck OLED when I already had the LCD model because honestly I think the economy is going to crash hard and it is going to be a long road to affordably getting a gaming device in the US for the foreseeable future.
It is a shitty situation to be in, but I didn’t even hesitate because the current calculus is a no brainer. I have Blender on my Steam Deck and I am using it to create cool visualizations of Lidar data for Geology, Nintendo would respond to a statement like this with something like “yeah, that is cool but it sounds very niche, people don’t need that” and my response is “Fuck you, you haven’t even let people try”.
I heard of another Geologist bringing in their steam deck to present a talk off of it instead of a laptop too, these kinds of interesting unusual use cases aren’t trivial and hyper individual, they represent people developing the future of handheld computers in real time, and Nintendo has completely lost the plot here. The Steam Deck really isn’t a gaming device, it is a gaming device that Trojan Horses you into having an awesome handheld linux computer that can also play your favorite games.
If Nintendo thinks they can compete with the Steam Deck by just selling a better handheld gaming console, they are so fucked… or at the very least they are walking away from what will actually be the next big growth area in computers (that people were SURE AI and VR would be).
Nintendo execs are likely sitting there being like “damn we are going to make so much money selling the best handheld gaming console and completely dominate the handheld gaming console market so we can charge $100 a game” while missing the MUCH LARGER profit opportunity of evolving their handheld console into a handheld computer.
Think about it, Nintendo is in the perfect position to evolve their Switch into more and more of a computer, and it would give them a MASSIVE new horizon of growth opportunities especially since countless kids grow up playing on Switches and already know how to use them inside out… it would help Nintendo protect itself from encroachment by other big tech, and do any number of other longterm things for Nintendo’s growth and profit.
Instead the idiots want to gouge people for more money by squeezing ONLY the gaming potential out of the switch, it is pathetic and I wish legislation around the world didn’t allow massive corporations to behave this foolishly in trying to close down their systems so they don’t accidentally create the “wrong” kind of value or innovation.
This is exactly why I purchased a steam deck. My gaming PC died (RIP to a real one), and I needed something for general use more than I did for gaming.
I need to check the price of broken steam decks, there are so many fun project’s I could do if I had the motherboard or daughter boards in the steam deck, and no I need my current steam deck intact to play on
why on earth would I want to buy a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control
from context I think you wanted to write nintendo
Yeah, I was trying to say the switch can be thought of as a steam deck that is locked behind corporate control.
oh! I understand it now, sorry
Who the hell is paying 90EUR for switch games?
Let’s not pretend every publisher isn’t planning on doing this. Nintendo just happens to be the first here.
I genuinely thought GTA6 was gonna beat them to the punch.
The other publishers were all eagerly waiting for gta6 to take the blame for the price increase. Nintendo just doesn’t care about that and weren’t gonna wait for a third party before announcing their new prices.
All it takes is for a major corporation to pull the trigger. Since Nintendo is willing to take that step, other companies are going to be observing to see if it’s worth the temporary backlash.
I get the MSRP outrage, but I mean it’s not an unusual cost for launch day titles, especially for physical media.
I don’t think I’ve ever paid full retail for any game or console I’ve ever owned though. And I do like to own my games by buying physical media (or at least the installer files).
Thing is that they even do this shady thing now where retails is 10 bucks more than the digital version.
Which game has been launched at 90 bucks before?
Me and millions of others. If you account for inflation, there has been higher prices in the past.
I mean I own a switch, and I’ve never paid anything close to that for games… I’ve gone to maybe £45-50 for launch titles but what games cost £70?
But if you account for average wages, the prices are higher now.
Because inflation applies to all products equally and there aren’t ever relative adjustments /s
What games currently cost that much though, is my question really, I guess. The last expensive titles I can see right now for standard editions of games is like, 70Eur equivalent for AAA type titles.
Nice to see an adult reaction in this thread. You have a good point and I’m very curious why Nintendo made these choices. Maybe it could have to do with the current value of the Japanese yen? I’m not an economist though, so I’m just guessing right now.
Wild. Possibly market rates are different - don’t know if the EUR is particularly weak right now? I don’t follow the conversion rates…
Nintendo fanboys, they would jump off a cliff if asked.
I crave for the earlier days of the 3DS to happen again, please Nintendo fan base, I have a bit of faith.
I consider myself a Nintendo fanboy. I’ve owned every console.
Would not jump off a bridge.
However, these game prices are too high. I don’t think third party games will be that price but first party games will be there.
Same, owned every console since the NES. This one’s a pass for me. Maybe Nintendo will be humbled and bring their pricing back down to Earth in the future, but I doubt it.
Too young to have owned every console and don’t care enough, but I am a fan of many games and the community. Nintendo the company hates its fans, that is widely known.
I’m not gonna buy it for that price. Especially not as a student. Especially not while ☠️ isn’t a thing yet.
They have gotten greedy. There needs to be a Wii-U era again.
There needs to be a Wii-U era again.
I agree, they need to be humbled, but I have no idea whether they will or not. While the economy is working against them, a LOT of people liked the Switch, and this is a more powerful one rather than a hard-to-understand mess like the Wii U. Genuinely curious to see how the Switch 2 does. My best guess is “modest success.”
Something tells me all new AAA games are going to be touching that price. I mean, they already do if you factor in the stupid elite wtf editions and deluxe pro plus editions. Hell, they’re more like $130-$150 after DLC is all said and done.
I know my work colleague is not. His Switch was cracked for I think 100+ eur which seems quite high, but since you can afterwards download pretty much any title from some pirate marketplace, that investment has been covered at least tenfold.
Steam deck is also backwards compatible with nearly all of Nintendo.
Something tells me that the Deck will be compatible with “way more” than old games in the near future… Some times an emulator goes down, and two or more rise up.
We’re lucky Valve has fuck you money for when Nintendo inevitably come after them
Comes after them for what? Selling small computers?
yeah, or infringing on their “patents” lmfao
Remember they got a patent for catching monsters using balls just to start a lawsuit against Palworld, and if my memory doesn’t fail me, they tried to patent some stupidly base mechanic in Zelda TotK (like using local coordinates for constructs).
I’m not sure they wouldn’t try to get a patent for the concept of “handheld gaming console” because they came up with the Game Boy.
I don’t see how Nintendo could go after valve. Valve doesn’t make or distribute the emulator, or the ROMs.
I agree. They could go after windows at that point.
Even the 729$ Legion Go looks like a good deal compared to the Switch 2.
I have a Steam Deck definitely felt no need to get either the Switch 1 or 2.
“Mouse mode”
Yeah, the Steam Deck has that. Its called dual touchpads, and unlike the Switch 2 you can easily switch from analog stick to touchpad (they also have more functionality and are actually utilized to their full potential with desktop mode).
PCs literally had “mouse mode” gaming since the 80s. The Amiga/ATARI ST already had them, too.
Consoles have been behind the times for decades.
I dunno what y’all are talking about, the Deck chip (Van Gogh, 7nm, Zen 2 but with Rembrandt-era SoC features, RDNA2) is “newer” than the Ampere chip (circa 2020) in the Switch 2.
I’m always 2-3 years behind on new consoles for this very reason.
You say that like Nintendo ever puts their games on sale
I do the same, but not because of sales, but because it takes 2-3 years for the high seas to swell with jolly rogers.
Now that I can get behind
Used physical copies are usually cheap.
I’ve never found any. They’re always similar in price to digital. Which is better than digital, imo, but still. The used market charges a lot because it can.
The nintendo switch, released 8 years ago now, was the first console to never have a price drop. PS5 and XBOX series did not need to be convinced to join that particular trend
It had one on the secondary market. 🤟
The display supports 1080p+120hz, games running at that res and fps will be rare I imagine. I mean, it would be amazing but Xbox also supports 4k 120 and it usually runs Up to 1440p upscaled 30fps so idk how much it will really differ from what we’ve already got.
I’m skeptical about 4 hour Elden Ring session.
Switch l2
I think Cisco is working to remove the points about uptime and not having lags/crashes
That’s why you don’t buy Cisco
(For anyone who wasn’t alive in the late 90’s or 00’s this is a rapper named Sisqó, famous for his highly intellectual song called “Thong Song”)
We are currently moving away from cisco because they want 12k+ for a new switch. Juniper or HP for us i think.
Why’d you ommit the price of the layer 2 switch? curious
If we’re talking home use, you can buy enterprise switches for less than $100 on the secondary market. I got a 1GB PoE 24 port managed switch for $35.
