There shouldn’t be worms in the poop of a healthy dog. This analogy just keeps getting better and more accurate.

The new outlook has exceeded “garbage” and gone all the way to dumpster fire. It sometimes takes upwards of 15, 30 seconds to open an email. The new auto formatting is a hindrance to be overcome by tricking it to act how you want. Trying to schedule an event across timezones shits the bed half the time, resulting in improper meeting times being sent out. Absolute failure.

If I’m being honest the only Microsoft product I actually like is Excel.

Ever try finding an old email by sender. Lol, good luck

I’ll die on the hill that classic outlook is far better than Gmail and similar web interfaces for email especially if you have long threads or lots of emails.

Also somehow Google’s email search sucks so bad compared to searching in outlook.

It temporarily deletes my meetings just before they happen, so that I don’t have to attend them!

Of course, when I open it later, the meetings are restored, with the original date, and no trace of the deletion. So not attending them is quite hard to explain to others. But it does save me from attending!

fuxk yea I get like an extra 30 mins a day at leastttt

Hahaha!

Fuckin epic!

VS Code. That’s it though.

Excel, Active Directory, and to a somewhat lesser degree MSSQL.

Sadly I had to go the other way, from Slack to Teams. Oh the horror!!

Excel?

I have an old Microsoft brand thumb drive that fits perfectly into my ass and makes me nut every time

Skype used to be peer to peer. Your call went from you to your friend (whomever). Microsoft decided that they couldn’t mitm that setup to scrape data; so, soon after they acquired Skype, they made all calls go through their servers.

Then they tried to make Skype make more money, since those servers aren’t free. Then they made teams and copied half the code into that, and cludged the rest to make it hold together.

Well, I’m a unix guy for 30 years and hated M$ bill gates blablabla and forced to use windows at work etc. Teams was somewhat bad at the beginning, especially start of covid pandemic , I’m using Teams multiple times daily for ~5 years now. But since ~1 year it handles video call pretty nicely, 20+ feeds, share screens, whiteboard, etc. it’s pretty stable at least, don’t crash anymore, and we can have multiple accounts. It took times to reach this state I agree…

The core of what made Skype great was made by a team of engineers in Estonia. Once it got acquired most of those people left the company. Many of them ended up at Twilio.

There’s a huge Teams outage right now. I have to use it at work and it makes me want to jump face first into a wood chipper.

I do not believe anyone at Microsoft actually uses it because if they did there’s no way in hell that they would have let it be that bad.

It literally keeps every single conversation you’ve ever had in a big long list on the left, with absolutely no way to organize it, categorize it, order it, or in any way manage it other than deleting history, that’s it you can delete history.

We used to use it before switching to Google Workspace (don’t get me started on how much I hate that), and Teams wasn’t too bad. But it had two things going for it then:

• It was replacing Skype for Business which never should existed because it was so awful. Compared to SfB, literally anything was an improvement.
• At the time, it was basically a Slack clone that didn’t have everything and the kitchen sink bolted on yet and was decently lightweight if you used the browser version.

I’ve had nothing but issues with it since their “upgrade” over the last year or so. It keeps cycling between the new and old versions when I open it, it often closes itself on my PC, and every time I try to pin it to my Taskbar it disappears.

Bill Gates is en route to your location 

Such a brave opinion on Lemmy you have balls if steel sir.

Slow, buggy, annoying interface, hogs extreme amounts of resources locally, can be used to spy on its users.

What’s not to like? It’s basically how Elon envisions X, an “everything app” that is actually good at nothing specific.

Agreed. It feels a bit janky here and there but otherwise works ok.

But don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t say I like it.

I haven’t used competing apps to know, but as a forced teams user it is very sluggish, seems to break other ms apps half the time and has some strange and persistent design choices that irk me. It also crashes on its own, when I’m not using it 2-3 times a day.

It has improved in terms of features lately, but still feels very bloated and WIP most of the time. It still won’t let me control where video windows are, and I’ll never understand this.

This is our replacement for Skype, which was obviously feature deficient and getting old, but does what it’s supposed to do and doesn’t cause problems.

Not sure if there’s a good competing app in terms of video and slack functionality, integration into outlook and onedrive (both of which also annoy me and seem to be performing worse-over-time, but are unavoidable and sometimes useful.)

Now it was a few years ago I used it regularly last time, but moving to Slack was a huge relief.

One thing I remember with teams is that sending files was always a hassle. Sometimes files didn’t arrive. Files couldn’t have the same name as other previously sent files (because everything was in a onedrive folder).

Slack has much better search. It felt like I could finally find the messages I wanted to find. With teams it was a gamble.

And then there’s much better bot integration. At my work we have multiple bots that send messages when there’s e.g. production errors. We can then start thread discussions directly on that posts about the error, or link it to other channels to escalate the issue. And with a working search engine we can easily find the conversation again as a reference.

It got many small things that just adds value.

Zoom works for video. I test it a few times a week for a few hours with a few contacts each time.

And a few beer.

It’s a vPub most of the time with some tech thrown in.

I hate to say it, but FB Messenger is realizable for me too : starts well, sounds good, video’s clean, ends cleanly . I need to remind mom how to start that call when it’s with her on her old portal unit, but yeah. Cambridge is the worst thing to happen to good products like M and Portal.