That we care about religion and are constantly thinking about religion. Or that we hate all religious people and judge people simply based on religion. Sure, some atheists do but not all of em. I can only speak for myself but the only time I ever give a fuck about religion is when a religious person reminds me about it. I dislike evangelists and it’s not an attack on all religious people.
Additionally, atheism isn’t a religion nor a group, movement, etc. The only common denominator between us is a lack of religion. Even our beliefs on atheism are different. Therefore all of the above.
Oh I hate all religious and I judge heavily.
Fuck those people.
That we “hate” god. I don’t in believe in a god, how the fuck could I hate something I don’t think exists? It’s moronic
That’s always weird. Like, do we hate the Easter Bunny too?
Where I am in Australia, if as a group (say of coworkers) talking about a new person, we might be like ‘maybe don’t say “Jesus fucking Christ” in front of Lisa, I’m pretty sure she’s extremely Christian’ or ‘let’s do lunch instead of drinks to celebrate the milestone, I’m pretty sure Vish is Muslim so we don’t want him to feel left out’.
Majority of my peers are atheist. Religion only comes up in our lives when we’re trying to be inclusive or respectful of the religious minority.
It’s funny how some places can’t do the same in reverse.
Edit to say, the thing is, to the majority of us, belief in a god is silly hocus pocus, drummed up by humans when we just didn’t understand how things worked and the scientific method didn’t exist. But as a respectful person living in a society, I live by the rules that you don’t make fun of those silly ideas, and also that religion is intrinsically linked to people’s cultures too. So I have a live and let live attitude to it.
Pity many Christians can’t be that Christian.
Most successful religions are highly evangelical. This is how they become religious. They also have the view that their way of worship is the only and correct way to worship. Otherwise, people would not have to follow that religion. These two ideas, crucial to the spread of a religion, are not compatible with tolerance.
In fact, if you genuinely believed that worshipping a God in a specific way was necessary or you would face eternal punishment. Would you not want to save everyone else from this. The do not see it as intolerance. They genuinely think they are helping you. Others just see it as their tribe and have a use Vs them attitude.
For Atheists it is easier to accept and welcome others. There’s no punishment for it. So tolerance comes easy. It’s also necessary for religions to demonise Atheists, to control their flock. So the historical cultural perception of Atheists is not one of kindness and tolerance. That’s why it’s seems novel that reality doesn’t match that.
This is where I’m at. It’s “you do you” so long as it doesn’t harm yourself or others.
We don’t know right from wrong because we don’t fear retribution from an almighty.
I’m an atheist, so I get to rape and murder as much as I want. It just happens that that amount is zero.
I’m also kind to others, purely because doing so makes me feel good. If it also builds up “karma credits” with others, that’s just a nice fringe benefit.
I had a coworker a few years ago who was seriously confused how I maintained morality without an imaginary friend threatening to fuck me up for all eternity. Like, he genuinely struggled to compute how it was possible for me to go around not raping and killing people as an atheist, to the extent that the guy was clearly wary around me going forward from that point. Very strange dude. Also weirdly enthusiastic about competitive pistol shooting.
God doesn’t want him to shoot people, yet.
That actually makes me boil, cause i remember the live interview with a religious dude around 2008. In which he said and i quote “i don’t fear the law of man, i only fear god”, the bastard said it after killing someone in the name of jehova (i don’t even remember if it was only one victim or more, my monkey brain was just baffled at his response to the question).
They don’t play with the same social rules at all, and then they rage because “us” r the crazy ones.
Ah, this one always makes me smile. I store it right next to the assumption we haven’t read their holy book, and the assumption we didn’t learn anything good from doing so that we can share as common ground.
If those are the only assumptions I have to get past, we can friends shortly!
I been told that if god was 100% proven is real, I would have to bend the knee and love and worship him.
Fuck that, if he is real I am going to make it my life mission to kill god. He ain’t looking like much of a good guy to me.
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Answering that question is pointless: I couldn’t give a single solitary flying fuck what a mentally deranged person thinks of any demographic unless it becomes a threat to somebody other than themselves.
An untrue stereotype is that you’re all like this poster above lol
Honestly, I think a good stereotype that religious people have about athiests is that the average athiest would consider the religious ones to be the “normal people.” Blatantly not true, we view them as willful ignorants, less functional human beings.
Is a fair generalisation of the average reddit an lemmy.world user.
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No morality. Eat children. Sleep with your partner when you’re stuck in traffic. The source of all evil. Can’t be trusted. Are always miserable.
Basically everything religious folks really are under the mask they wear.
As a religious person, I will absolutely sleep with your partner while you’re stuck in traffic.
I love a nap. I’m always sleepy, and if you’re stuck in traffic and I’m bored, imma be sleepin.
This is something we can all get behind. Just like OPs partner. Because we’re all stuck in traffic and they’re sleeping at the front.
I sure do love me a sleep train
It’s not under the mask. Some of them, they just cannot apprehend the fact that a human being can live respectfully without the permanent menace of being sent to hell or get some holy wrath or something
They seem to have this sense that irreligious/non-spiritual people are “missing something”. That " missing something" sense could range from them having some kind of weird pity for us to thinking of us as no different from talking animals. It’s like they think we’re missing something that should be a apart of humanity. They don’t think that we’ve actually overcome that part of humanity. I said irreligious because I’m from a Buddhist country.
That because we are free from god or gods that we have no moral compass. I consider myself a good person and I have good moral standards. I don’t need fear from punishment after death to do so.
Also that we have no spirituality… Spirituality and religion kinda go hand in hand but aren’t mutually exclusive. That being said, I have no desire for either religion or spirituality. Maybe when I’m closer to the later chapters
From my experience many religious people have questionable moral standards.
That because we are free from god or gods that we have no moral compass.
The scariest thing is someone claiming that only religion imparts morals and ethics.
Because if the only thing stopping a person from raping and killing and causing pain and anguish is the religion they have… dude, THEY ARE the monster everyone needs to be afraid of.
My own morals and ethics aren’t forcibly imposed on me by an outside force like a religion, ready to snap apart and break off with the smallest of stresses.
No, it is built up inside of me via empathy and understanding and personal experiences, and is therefore a core part of my being and far more immune to corruption or breakage.
If we just hear “the gospel” enough, we’ll come around. In reality, I hear street preachers, and see “Jesus loves you” stickers on street corners, and it turns me off even more.
Honestly, as an honestly pretty unspiritual Christian, Street preachers make me unnecessarily angry. Because it feels like they’re just bible bashing and aren’t actually doing anything to further Christianity’s goals, despite the fact they think they are. Individuals can’t win people over by shoving their beliefs down people’s throats.
I feel like the only people who listen to these guys are people who agree with them. Most people ignore them in my city.
I quite like them. And I don’t mind Jehovah’s witnesses. I can ignore or politely send them away without much hassle. But I think it’s nice that they believe they can save people and actively try to do so. If I believed, I hope I would be a good enough person to try to save everyone else, too.
Of course, this doesn’t apply to people who are trying to force people or demand poor treatment of people with different beliefs. It really depends where it comes from.
There is this strange idea that atheists are just rebellious against God because they don’t want to be responsible for being moral, kinda like disobeying your parents and sneaking out to party.
Also, lots of theists assume atheists used to be religious, they don’t really consider that people are raised without religion sometimes.
Yeah, the first one is really frustrating.
No, I don’t need the threat of everlasting punishment to be moral. I’m a secular humanist, and the idea that the only reason you’re not evil is because of threats of going to hell is way scarier than just being kind because it’s the right thing to do.
That it’s a religion. Except for a few groups, which I find kind of strange, being an atheist is the lack of religion and belief in a god. It’s not a religion or anything like a religion and so often I see atheism discussed by the religious in religious terms l, as a monolith, and other ways that just totally miss the mark.
If religions and beliefs are like the different broadcast channels you see on TV, you get Atheism when you turn the TV off.
It’s easier to group it up as a religion for information purposes, the amount of atheists are relevant if someone’s researching which religions people believe in.
Not parent poster, but I don’t think that’s what they were getting at.
Atheists are often generalized in the same way one might make generalizations about Catholics; the problem is that, while Catholics share a common set of beliefs and values (generally) based on doctrine and scripture, atheists don’t necessarily have anything in common about their beliefs or values, aside from an absence of theistic belief.
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Most atheists are agnostic. The terms are not mutually exclusive. They describe different concepts.
That we despise people who have religious faith. I don’t despise people with religious faith - I despise what religion does to people who have faith.
Like almost any marginalized group, atheists get caricatured by their most vocal members.
I probably would have become atheist a decade sooner if I hadn’t associated it with the logocentric, Western chauvinist, and plain old bigots who first represented atheism to me.
There are plenty of us who aren’t obsessed with religious debates; we don’t hate religious people; and our cultural, political, and philosophical ideas are not frozen in 18th Century Europe.
