Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ‘uncommitted’ in Michigan’s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

“It’s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote that’s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,” she said on Sunday during an interview on CNN’s State of the Union. “A second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.”

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Biden’s 2024 campaign, also said she wasn’t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote “uncommitted” in Michigan’s 27 February primary.

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    Not just a second Trump term, but a second Trump term and continuation/acceleration of the genocide in Gaza. Not voting and letting Trump win with a razor thin margin in a swing state will not fix the problem. Between the two realistic choices, Biden is infinitely more likely to push Israel for a ceasefire, which is the best chance anybody has to get the situation under control.

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      It’s a primary. If Democratic leadership has moved on from telling people that they have to get behind the nominee in the general election, to now telling people that that can’t even vote against the candidate the elites have selected in a primary, they are effectively working for Trump, and tanking the election.

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        My comment was really more about the general election. The primary is a foregone conclusion. Joe Biden will be the Democratic party nominee. Donald Trump, barring any significant action from the SCOTUS, will be the Republican party nominee. You can vote for whoever you want in a primary. I know I voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2020 primary election, and then I voted for Biden in the general.

        I hate how obvious this wedge is being driven mostly by the right, and people can’t see it. It’s not going to stop after the Primary, unfortunately. That’s why we have to fight the narrative now while there’s still time.

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      You can say that all you want, but currently RIGHT NOW a democrat is furthering and furthering the genocide and murder of Palestinians. Trump IS NOT DOING THIS. Maybe he will, probably. BUT I KNOW FOR A GOD DAMNED FACT BIDEN DOESNT CARE.

      Quit telling me I’m letting democracy die while we have a democrat doing conservative politics in the whitehouse.

      You’re letting democracy die by capitulating to the two party system that doesn’t represent you.

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        Honestly, this is the reaction of a child. “I don’t agree with the system so I’m going to take my toys and go home, who cares who it hurts, even if it hurts me.”

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        So you’re voting for a guy who literally said to be a dictator? A guy who as some 90something criminals indictments, and has been convicted in too many fraud cases to count, who currently owes half a billion dollars in fines? Awesome Choice

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        If you’ve ever complained about a CEO seeking to boost profits to benefit themselves and not care about the long term repercussions of their actions. This is you. You’re doing it now. The GOP is seeking to remove democracy. They are allowing / endorsing it at CPAC. Republicans support Israel more than Democrats. A Trump term equals never having the ability to vote again + More support for Israel doing what it’s doing, and likely having the US join in. They’ve been begging to invade Iran for decades. Global politics is messy. If you act like it’s clean you’re just going to get steamrolled.

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      It doesn’t look like Gaza will survive til election day, so none of this can be put on Trump.

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        You can’t blame Trump for the Gaza Genocide but you cannot claim that Trump will make any positive difference there vs Biden. And Trump WILL make destructive changes to the environment, women’s rights, minority rights, trans rights, global warming, existence of democracy and establish a more fascist state. So yeah, I guess one outcome is indistinguishable from the other

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          We’ve also seen what Biden will do for the environment, women’s rights, minority rights, and trans rights. Nothing. This is pathetic.

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            Nothing

            Source please.

            I’m sure it’s not at the level that you and I wish for, and your grievances are valid…

            But calling it “nothing” and then insinuating a Trump presidency will be equally bad as another Biden term?

            Come on, friend. Let’s be more rigorous than that.

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              Don’t ask for evidence that something doesn’t exist. Show it does exist, instead. What are Biden’s wins on those issues? Every one of those things are worse today than in 2020.

              regardless, Biden is obviously pro-genocide. He called himself a zionist. I’m not voting for him.

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                No, it doesn’t work like that. You are claiming nothing has been done on any of those issues. It’s prima facie a bold and likely specious claim.

                Speak honestly: have you looked for any counterexample?

                Or are you content to make extreme claims, hook people in with emotion, and throw the effort onto others to check your work?

                Come on.

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                  Amazing how you have the patience to address frustrated people like that. I guess this surely is the way but encountering these baseless yet absolute accusations just makes me angry haha.

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        It can absolutely be put on Trump. October 7 was a response to the Abraham Accords that were championed by Trump. Those accords would put Saudi Arabia in charge of Palestinian security, which was not acceptable to Palestinians in general, or especially Hamas.

        Something that isn’t being talked about is the added risk because of the tensions with Iran from Trump pulling out of the nuclear deal. A lot of the unpopular moves the Biden administration has made are a direct result of that. From the start, America’s top priority in all this has been to keep Iran from getting involved because that would likely be WW3.