• S_204@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    ITT a bunch of fucking losers claiming to have hearing problems and would rather be a dick in public than invest in proper headphones.

    Note on the claim part, I don’t believe a fraction of the assholes here, just trying to justify their assholery. People with legitimate hearing issues tend to accept the support technology that’s readily available these days. I spend quite a bit of time around folks who are actually hard of hearing.

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      9 months ago

      Even if they do have hearing issues, a phone pressed against your ear will sound much louder with much greater clarity compared to the speaker mode.

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          9 months ago

          Which may be the case, but being immediately dismissive like you are isn’t exactly going to get them on your side now, is it?

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            There is no side, it’s a fact and if you can’t have some empathy for people with hearing issue then what can I say to change your mind?!

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              Well, the guy you are responding to is maybe only thinking of people whose hearing is diminished in some manner. Not people whose hearing is otherwise incapacitated through something like tinnitus or like the other poster in here who has auditory dyslexia. Both of whom may be inconvenienced by headphones or earbuds and have an easier time with speaker phone than those options. Maybe try to explain how you think they are being insensitive or lacking empathy rather than just accusing them of such without explanation.

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          9 months ago

          I know right? Like how hearing aids are designed to be held a foot and a half from the head. These people need to be more sensitive

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      Add to that the amount of headphones out there that do help with various ear issues is growing and the prices are not that heavy.

      They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online. Your skull can hear for you now. This is the same technology as what hearing aids use and you can just wire it up as headphones to your phone now

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        9 months ago

        They have bone conduction ear phones now that can be picked up online

        Yo, that’s dope. As someone who is partially deaf, but mostly hears fine, I’m curious about this.

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          9 months ago

          I was just reading about these yesterday. They basically bypass your eardrum so they’re really good for people with hearing loss who still want to use headphones. Definitely check them out if you think they’ll work for you.

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          9 months ago

          Yeah I saw several variances available on Amazon just in the past week. Might be worth checking out or seeing how they rate

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      When someone calls and I expect it to be 60 seconds or less, I don’t wanna go fumbling in my bag for 30 seconds to find the headphones and spend another 20 making sure they hook up to my phone properly.

      Plus, idk about hearing issues, but I have epilepsy and my seizures increase when I have long calls with the phone against my face OR with TWS earbuds in, which can apparently (and not too uncommonly) be triggered by the type of radiation they put off, even though it’s at very low levels. But just 3 inches further from my face and no problems. I know that’s not why a lot of people do it, and I still try not to in public, but there are various reasons that someone might.

      I am sure this will get downvoted to the lowest level of hell, but when it comes to people doing this without a medical reason/just based on preference, I also just don’t know why a minor annoyance triggers such major anger in others. If I’m on a train for an hour and someone is talking the whole time, that’s annoying no matter how they’re doing it. If I pass someone on speaker in the grocery store, I don’t really let that 12 seconds affect the rest of my day, certainly not enough to harbor such hot feelings about it.

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        9 months ago

        You could have just swapped your first few lines for ’ I’m selfish and don’t care about others’.

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          9 months ago

          Sure, but I’d honestly also rather hear both sides of a stranger’s conversation than just one. Doesn’t feel better to me to be talking just as loud on the phone but have it against your ear than a few inches away

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    9 months ago

    Imagine meeting the love of your life and then finding out they talk on the phone like this

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    Wow I almost feel singled out by this. But I presume that this is supposed to be in public. Which by every account is a dick move.

    However I do this in private, I.e. in my car or at home. And the reason I do it is because I can’t hear a call without using the speaker phone. Hearing issues aren’t fun.

    However the easier solution is headphones, but calls over Bluetooth can make things worse, from battery life to sound quality.

    Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.

    TL:DR I do this because of my hearing issues. In public this is a dick move, but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.

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      but headphones aren’t the solution they use to be.

      Not true. There’s air conduction, bone conduction(which is the same technology for people who actually do experience hearing loss), wired, non wired, in ear, over ear, on ear, noise cancelling and these are not that expensive that you can get it online so it’s super accessible.

      It’s not the early 2000s anymore where you only get buds or on ear or whatever apple bullshit comes with your phone.

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        Agreed, though sadly this doesn’t apply to me. Hearing issues doesn’t always mean hearing loss. I have Auditory Processing Disorder or Auditory Dyslexia means my hearing is good, but I don’t always understand what people are saying.

        Speaker phone makes it easier for me to understand what the other person is saying. But again its a dick move to use it in public.

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            9 months ago

            Pretty much. The inability to filter voices from other noises. Not fun when you are on a bus and the engine is the only thing you can make out

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              And why I avoid noisy bars and stuff. I noticed once during the fire drill at work, we were all standing outside and the loud alarm was beeping like a truck backing up and the whole time I couldn’t make out what people were saying. I could hear the noises coming from their mouths, but couldn’t understand a thing.

              Alarm stopped and I could understand them fine.

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          9 months ago

          What happened when you tried the bone conducting type? What we’re your findings with this one?

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            9 months ago

            I didn’t try those yet. I presume it wouldn’t be helpful since I need noise isolation and blocking. Not sure if they do that

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            9 months ago

            I have noise cancelling Sony earbuds for a while now. At this point I’ve just gotten use to how people talk, and guessing at what they said and I missed.

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        People don’t have their headphones turned on and in easy reach at all times. If you’re doing this in a private space, who cares?

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          I don’t. I’m responding to the argument that headphones are not what they used to be. that is incorrect. There is more selection and varying types should one be selecting a pair.

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      9 months ago

      I feel this too with the hearing issues, but I have moved away to texting rather than calls mostly. Social took a hit, but I’m still here anyways.

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      Wired headphones are the preferable solution to this but we all know what happened to those.

      What happened? I use wired headphones, haven’t had any problems recently.

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          Ohhh, I completely forgot iPhones no longer had those. Thanks for the reminder, I’ll remember to check for a headphone jack before buying a new phone.

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            The new iphones now have USB c so it’s not as bad as it use to be, since USB c dongles can be cross device compatible. But yeah it suuucks.

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            It’s not a mandatory feature for me personally, but I absolutely prefer having an actual headphone jack and die a little inside when a new phone doesn’t

            You can “get around” that by using a usb c to 3.5mm audio adaptor, or a y adaptor that’s a 3.5mm audio and another USBC to allow for charging at the same time

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    I do this when I’m on the phone and alone. Or I set my phone on my tits. But only when I am isolated. I don’t want to bother people with my phone on speaker.

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    That’s not the normal way to talk when you are alone in the room?

    Guess no one will find out because I am alone.

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    I know this is a joke but if I found my match but they had a minor flaw I would probably try real hard to make it work and maybe even explain to them that their bad habit annoys me slightly. Nobody is perfect and theres always room to improve for those willing to try

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    I don’t get how they hear the other person, or are they on speaker mode?

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    Once you survive couple of years in this world you find out this is just the beginning.

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    My wife does this, but there was a time that I was sidetalkin’ on a Nokia N-Gage so we’re square.

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    Related: Why exactly has every person >60 years old started wandering around in public having loud conversations on speaker phone?

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        I don’t mean to be rude, and I totally understand if it works better to use a speakerphone (some people have ear issues and can’t have things pressing against their ears). But if the issue is a phone is only held against one ear, can’t you use headphones or earphones that also transmit sounds to both ears?

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          When someone calls and I expect it to be 60 seconds or less, I don’t wanna go fumbling in my bag for 30 seconds to find the headphones and spend another 20 making sure they hook up to my phone properly.

          Plus I have epilepsy and my seizures increase when I have long calls with the phone against my face or with TWS earbuds in, which can apparently (and not too uncommonly) be triggered by the type of radiation they put off, even though it’s at very low levels. But just 3 inches further from my face and no problems. I know that’s not why a lot of people do it, and I still try not to in public, but there are various reasons that someone might.

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          I’m guessing they were explaining, not advocating. Most people would agree with you that there’s another option. Some people are resistant to that, unfortunately, including people I know.

          Luckily for me, I already love my earpods. So, I’ll be covered when my hearing starts to go.

    • 𝔼𝕩𝕦𝕤𝕚𝕒@lemmy.world
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      Talking like this? Fucking irritating in public. Speaker so loud everyone can hear, not even trying to lower their voice Like the area is loud so they gotta turn up and talk loud. You know what else solves this? Taking it off speaker and holding it to your ear like a phone.

      Their phone flat out in front makes their profile larger, and I know that seems silly but that’s another foot and a half in an already cramped bus.

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    Pizza eaters are rude as hell, too. I’d guarantee that there’s significant overlap with the people who play music in public from their shitty phone speaker.