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    https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-will-not-eat-the-bugs

    So “rich people want poor people to eat bugs” is a climate denier conspiracy theorist meme. The OP comic doesn’t involve this so it might have been posted in good faith, so I’m gonna be nice and shit, but this isn’t great. The gimmick is basically “global elites who eat steak want you to eat bugs, climate science is a pretext to rob you.” It’s parallel to anti-fuckcars people who hear “dense sensibly designed mixed use, bikes walking etc” and hear “global elites who use private jets want to take your personal car and trap you in your tiny neighborhood for global elite reasons, climate science is a pretext to rob you.”

    tldr plz no post badguy material

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    The eating bugs thing is stupid 4chan/putin propaganda to demonize the WEF who don’t really need to be demonized because they’re wealthy people… But they are nominally progressives who Putin/Trump hate, it’s also used to demonize activists like Greta Thunberg (who is often depicted saying the line in memes), because she’s an environmental activist and ibugs are seen as more environmentally sustainable than beef.

    In actual fact there was just discussed and was never going to be forced on you. But the conservative propaganda now limits even talk of such exotic ideas.

    It’s stupid speech limiting propaganda because everyone reading this has been eating bugs their whole life without knowing it. If you’ve ever had a glossy food anything, but most definitely candy, you’ve eaten bugs - because shellac is one of the main ways candy gets its shine, and is almost always made from crushed lac beatle shells.

    So yes, you’re eating bugs like someone from the islands above Australia or below China.

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    But really, though, insects are a very sustainable source of nutrition, and pretty damn healthy.

    Plus, when cooked right, they’re delicious.

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      But we have literally no need to do it. Lab grown meat requires the same level of input as industrial cricket or worm farming per gram of protein and produces fat at the same time while being far more palatable.

      There’s no need to go back to famine era stone age practices to solve the ethical and environmental problems of meat eating.

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        I see no problem at all with lab-grown meat being the solution, but I would push back a bit on the notion that eating bugs is inherently unpalatable. The truth is that what makes eating bugs unpalatable is our current habits and inclinations think of this as being inherently “icky”, save for certain species that come from the sea. Changing these habits would not only switch us to consuming animal protein with fewer ethical and environmental issues, but also would open us up to new culinary experiences which we are currently depriving ourselves.

        Having said that, I have never tried hard to overcome my own habits and inclinations, even though I probably should, so I am not going to judge anyone else for not having done so; the above paragraph is a musing rather than me trying to dictate anything to other people.

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          That’s fair but for a population to take to a previously forbidden food group requires decades to centuries of conditioning, and have to be better than not having them. Cheese, for example; even populations with high levels of lactose intolerance and without a strong culture of fermented foods tend to like cheese, because it fills a niche that’s difficult to fill without cheese.

          I’ve had a lot of traditional insect dishes as well as more modern takes where they just sub a random flavorless food for insects like the flavored dried crickets… None of them are that good. The sauces or seasoning makes them edible. Anything you can get from an insect based dish you can get using beans or potatoes or rice or literally anything else without a particularly strong flavor. They don’t have a niche they fill.

          Adoption without just making it a generic protein bar a’la snowpiercer isn’t likely unless all other protein sources become out of reach… And we really shouldn’t force it since we did crack lab grown meat. Lamb and veal are incredibly delicious unethical, but we can make that. Well likely be able to do seafood as well, bringing back whale, real tuna, even dolphin. And we if really want bugs well there’s shrimp on the far horizon to be grown…

          There’s really no need to deal with the downsides of bugs. Like legs or exploding guts.

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        Or we can simply eat beans, tofu or any of the dozens of plant protein sources. I don’t get why people are so dead set on stuffing some animal part into their mouths.

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          Because it’s tasty. Because we have a few million year history of eating it and it satisfies a deep itch in our consciousness.

          The only issues with meat are the ethical concerns and the environmental issues, both of which are eliminated with lab meat. We get the taste without the pointless suffering.

          Not everyone likes plant proteins as a sole source, and that’s okay.

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    spoken as somebody that hasn’t baked with cricket flour

    performs just the same as wheat flour, but with added protein.

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      Roasted crickets with salt, lime, and chili makes a great snack. My only issue is that the legs get stuck in my teeth.

      Silkworm pupae taste like eating a mushroom is a forest after it rains.

    • I had a friend who owned a series of low-key exotic pets. Not really exotic, just unusual. Lizards, spiders, that sorry of thing.

      They claimed to have one day had an epiphany, that grasshoppers literal only reason for existing was as food for other things. He said, no matter where he looked, the common factor in all animals was that they ate grasshoppers. Snakes? Grasshoppers. Spiders? Grasshoppers. Birds? Grasshoppers. Other bugs? Grasshoppers. Grasshoppers? Grasshoppers!

      My question for you: are they better fresh? Alive? Or cooked? Fried?

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    I could not agree more that anyone who points out the negative ethical and environmental repercussions of eating meat and suggests that it would be better if we all switched to eating more bugs and/or lab-grown meat instead is really just trying to oppress the poor!

    (Just to be clear: I myself find it extremely hard to change my habits so I do not negatively judge anyone else for continuing to eat meat, but I do negatively judge people who derail the entire conversation about the best way to proceed given the reality of problems with eating as much meat as we do by accusing me of having bad intentions.)

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      No, because the people who really think that this is what is going on are also people who are stubborn about changing anything about their lifestyle, so they will continue to eat meat.