Trudeau decided to go ahead with retaliatory tariffs even though Trump’s order includes a mechanism to escalate the rates if Canada retaliates against the U.S.
We are actually seeing the us get destroyed by a mad king. Never let conservatives forget that they ushered in a man who intentionally tried to destroy their country.
You could argue that in 2016, some conservatives voted based on promises of economic growth, job creation, or an ‘outsider’ shaking up the system. But at this point, it’s clear that a significant portion of the movement isn’t just tolerating the consequences—they’re actively embracing them.
Right-wing media outlets like Fox News are already preparing their audience for economic hardship, not by criticizing the policies causing it, but by framing it as a necessary sacrifice to achieve ideological goals—like restricting immigration. That tells us this isn’t about economic prosperity or stability; it’s about prioritizing certain cultural and political victories, even if it means making life harder for everyone.
This isn’t just one politician’s recklessness; it’s a broader shift in conservative politics. There’s a growing acceptance of government dysfunction, economic decline, and even authoritarian tactics—as long as it’s seen as benefiting their side. That’s what makes this moment different from 2016. It’s not just that a ‘mad king’ is at the helm; it’s that a large segment of his supporters and media ecosystem are celebrating the chaos, rather than trying to stop it.
Yes, yes, but “Daddy’s home, you guys! And he has his belt off! Yah-fucking-hoooooo! 'merica gunna be so gud noaw! Egg prices? What egg prices? Everything else is even more expensive, too, but we were for low prices before we were AGAINST them!”
This gives stupid people a real chubby, so we should all have to suffer for their stupid feels.
Not just the Conservatives; there’s always a cohort of Democrats willing to side with Republicans to make sure the worst ideas make it across the finish line.
Dema haven’t been “on our side” for decades. They’re too busy milking the corporate teat.
With absolutely no respect, quit whining about Democrats. The are not the ones doing tariffs. They are not the ones revoking trans people’s passports. They are not the ones tossing all mention of gender down the memory hole. They are not the ones trying to amend the Constitution illegally via executive order. They’re not the ones allowing unconfirmed, unelected, unvetted, private citizens to take total control of the Treasury.
Apparently, the Democratic party’s biggest sin was not being evil enough, since that’s apparently what Trump elected.
The Dems ain’t coming to save us. It’s astounding to me that even in a forum like Lemmy, I’m still having to piece a to b to c for the madding crowd, and being downvoted for my efforts. Just look at the last 30 years.
What have Democrats accomplished, really? Just look at the last four years. Biden could have come out of the blocks on his day/week/month one just like Trump- with a slew of executive orders and tasked decisions already hitting the ground running. But instead he dawdled and pithered about, while Republicans and the SCOTUS went about laying their plans to systematically dismantle America. And every time we needed a quorum of Democrats to actually affect anything, they all scattered like cockroaches in the light. But when Republicans put forth a bill, rest assured there will always be a few opportunistic Dems willing to cross the aisle.
They’re Controlled Opposition. Sure, they may be the best (or only) option we have, but that does not and should not preclude us from viewing their “leadership” with highly critical lenses. Because at this point, they deserve all the criticism coming their way. They have been categorical losers for far too long, and this last election cycle should be catastrophic for Dem leaders, because their actions (or lack thereof) have facilitated a catastrophe for the world. A catastrophe that President Biden ushered in with the utmost decorum. They ain’t comin to save us.
They are both bad and have a massive overlap. But yes one party is clearly better and at least tries to help however flawed it may be.
Still both Dems and Republicans are ruled by the elite and the interests of the oligarchy. That’s clear and part of the problem. Until we change how our elections work though it’s in everyone’s best interest to vote for the democratic party
A lot of oligarchs are philanthropic or at least not sociopathic enough that they realize they should be paying more and they’re happy to do it. I think Warren Buffett is a popular example.
So, yes, I would say that some of the oligarchy is interested in that and making sure themselves and their peers are doing their fair share. At the very least, they are okay with it happening as there are other things the folks in their pockets can do for them in government.
It’s not black and white, like everything else there are shades of gray and we mustn’t make the mistake of believing the 1% who’ve captured (or maybe always have had …) the ear of our government are monolithic.
Not sure there is a change to elections that will help. Homo sapiens became the dominant species by a tendency toward small group loyalty. That will be exploitable as long after you and I are dead I figure. Our best hope is a benevolent AI takeover. How sad is that.
I think ranked choice voting would help a lot. Then we could vote 3rd party without doing the equivalent of lighting that vote on fire. Right now it just makes no sense to vote anything other than Dem or Repub when you’re voting. Just because enough voters are only voting one or the other regardless of policies and beliefs and we’re not convincing enough of those folks to change their vote.
I am sincerely on the robots side in the future robot war against humanity. May they take mercy on our souls and save us from ourselves.
Thank you for sharing, that’s some good info! Too bad in order to get voting reforms done the people who can do it would need to be okay with losing a more fair election.
We are actually seeing the us get destroyed by a mad king. Never let conservatives forget that they ushered in a man who intentionally tried to destroy their country.
You could argue that in 2016, some conservatives voted based on promises of economic growth, job creation, or an ‘outsider’ shaking up the system. But at this point, it’s clear that a significant portion of the movement isn’t just tolerating the consequences—they’re actively embracing them.
Right-wing media outlets like Fox News are already preparing their audience for economic hardship, not by criticizing the policies causing it, but by framing it as a necessary sacrifice to achieve ideological goals—like restricting immigration. That tells us this isn’t about economic prosperity or stability; it’s about prioritizing certain cultural and political victories, even if it means making life harder for everyone.
This isn’t just one politician’s recklessness; it’s a broader shift in conservative politics. There’s a growing acceptance of government dysfunction, economic decline, and even authoritarian tactics—as long as it’s seen as benefiting their side. That’s what makes this moment different from 2016. It’s not just that a ‘mad king’ is at the helm; it’s that a large segment of his supporters and media ecosystem are celebrating the chaos, rather than trying to stop it.
Yes, yes, but “Daddy’s home, you guys! And he has his belt off! Yah-fucking-hoooooo! 'merica gunna be so gud noaw! Egg prices? What egg prices? Everything else is even more expensive, too, but we were for low prices before we were AGAINST them!”
This gives stupid people a real chubby, so we should all have to suffer for their stupid feels.
I plan to never let conservatives forget that the Trumpflation starting up was created by Traitorapist Trump.
Not just the Conservatives; there’s always a cohort of Democrats willing to side with Republicans to make sure the worst ideas make it across the finish line.
Dema haven’t been “on our side” for decades. They’re too busy milking the corporate teat.
With absolutely no respect, quit whining about Democrats. The are not the ones doing tariffs. They are not the ones revoking trans people’s passports. They are not the ones tossing all mention of gender down the memory hole. They are not the ones trying to amend the Constitution illegally via executive order. They’re not the ones allowing unconfirmed, unelected, unvetted, private citizens to take total control of the Treasury.
Apparently, the Democratic party’s biggest sin was not being evil enough, since that’s apparently what Trump elected.
The Dems ain’t coming to save us. It’s astounding to me that even in a forum like Lemmy, I’m still having to piece a to b to c for the madding crowd, and being downvoted for my efforts. Just look at the last 30 years.
What have Democrats accomplished, really? Just look at the last four years. Biden could have come out of the blocks on his day/week/month one just like Trump- with a slew of executive orders and tasked decisions already hitting the ground running. But instead he dawdled and pithered about, while Republicans and the SCOTUS went about laying their plans to systematically dismantle America. And every time we needed a quorum of Democrats to actually affect anything, they all scattered like cockroaches in the light. But when Republicans put forth a bill, rest assured there will always be a few opportunistic Dems willing to cross the aisle.
They’re Controlled Opposition. Sure, they may be the best (or only) option we have, but that does not and should not preclude us from viewing their “leadership” with highly critical lenses. Because at this point, they deserve all the criticism coming their way. They have been categorical losers for far too long, and this last election cycle should be catastrophic for Dem leaders, because their actions (or lack thereof) have facilitated a catastrophe for the world. A catastrophe that President Biden ushered in with the utmost decorum. They ain’t comin to save us.
Oh, look, “both sides bad”, the reason we’re all here.
They are both bad and have a massive overlap. But yes one party is clearly better and at least tries to help however flawed it may be.
Still both Dems and Republicans are ruled by the elite and the interests of the oligarchy. That’s clear and part of the problem. Until we change how our elections work though it’s in everyone’s best interest to vote for the democratic party
Weird that the last 3 Dem presidents raised taxes on the wealthy and/or corporations. Didn’t know that the oligarchy was interested in that.
A lot of oligarchs are philanthropic or at least not sociopathic enough that they realize they should be paying more and they’re happy to do it. I think Warren Buffett is a popular example.
So, yes, I would say that some of the oligarchy is interested in that and making sure themselves and their peers are doing their fair share. At the very least, they are okay with it happening as there are other things the folks in their pockets can do for them in government.
It’s not black and white, like everything else there are shades of gray and we mustn’t make the mistake of believing the 1% who’ve captured (or maybe always have had …) the ear of our government are monolithic.
Actually, some are. Some of them are scared of pushing so much the pitchforks come out.
Not sure there is a change to elections that will help. Homo sapiens became the dominant species by a tendency toward small group loyalty. That will be exploitable as long after you and I are dead I figure. Our best hope is a benevolent AI takeover. How sad is that.
I think ranked choice voting would help a lot. Then we could vote 3rd party without doing the equivalent of lighting that vote on fire. Right now it just makes no sense to vote anything other than Dem or Repub when you’re voting. Just because enough voters are only voting one or the other regardless of policies and beliefs and we’re not convincing enough of those folks to change their vote.
I am sincerely on the robots side in the future robot war against humanity. May they take mercy on our souls and save us from ourselves.
I used to favor Ranked Choice voting, but someone on lemmy linked me this and I’m a STAR voting fan now.
Not that Ranked Choice voting isn’t a million times better then First-past-the-post voting.
Thank you for sharing, that’s some good info! Too bad in order to get voting reforms done the people who can do it would need to be okay with losing a more fair election.
All governments are ruled by those who stand out. They aren’t going to pay much heed to some guy who lives in a trailer or dirt farmer.
Jfc this is the fault of republicans. It’s not always both sides.