Eh, people, especially the rich, will likely be living longer and longer. Also, only a total sociopath would not care about what their children and grandchildren, etc., have to face. Again, I think the important thing is competency and the policies they support (hopefully backed by evidence if they have a political past). Someone with a few years under their belt is also hopefully more likely to look at the longer span of things, given that they’ve ideally accrued some level of wisdom.

If someone is 90 and still mentally fit, and socially aware like Bernie would be far more preferable than some spry spring chicken that adores the likes of Steve Miller. Again, I think age is just a number. There is nothing inherently good or bad about someone being young (some younger people seem to be old souls and have a lot more wisdom than the number of times they circled the sun) - or old. IMHO.

I know this country has always worshiped youth, and that’s not fallen out of fashion just yet. I just happen to think that’s rather dumb.

I’m not sure there is systemic racism against whites (as of yet). Or at least I’ve not seen any evidence for this. I do think there are certain activists that actually would be just fine if there were, though. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

What everyone should be talking about is equal opportunities. Try to see things through another’s eyes. Understand the human experience has much more in common than we are different, etc…but instead, the new mantra from extremists seems to be that a certain set of demographics is elevated and another set needs to only listen because they could not possibly understand or empathize, so they should just sit down and shut up because humans are just sooo different from one another.

Often subtracting any aspect of class in this conversation - so we have absolutely absurdist outcomes like: Will Smith, who has an amount of privilege that few in this country could possibly match, walks up and slaps Chris Rock (who is probably close to Will Smith in privilege level), out in public. And we had some of this fringe claiming that white people could not discuss this event, and really should not offer our opinion; it was a Black thing. WTAF?

Yes, like I said, a lot of it almost seems to be crafted to generate lots of resentment and division vs. pointing out the progress that has been made and working toward making things better. I mean, anyone that points out how far things have come is made out to be some kind of reactionary by some of this group.

I’m all for people learning real history, and learning to get along in this melting pot, and for everyone to have a seat at the table. But some extremist members seem to want to have a platform to lecture a certain other set of people, telling them how they should do this, and feel that (mostly feel bad for being who they were born as). Well, I’m not sure how that’s ever worked to win people over. I think this extremist fringe is definitely not helping the progressive cause. Some of them may be deluded to think that they can make everyone come over or be made to kowtow to their view. I don’t believe this to be the case, and I think more than a few of them are not even actually on the progressive side at all, but just merely troublemakers with a vendetta and a chip on their shoulder, or worse, con plants put there to make the entire left look ridiculous and hateful.

I’m just asking how much of an ally Disney really is. To me, it just seems to be a way to hit the hornets nest, and build up tons of resentment among a certain set of people that might be centrist/apolitical in the first place. I don’t think it’s helping the liberal/leftist cause - if anything it just seems like performance art crafted to anger a lot of people that for class reasons, might vote Democratic.

Why not? What does age have to do with it? Or his skin color? Or being male?

You’ve never seen what dementia can do to a person.

Believe me, I know all too well. I’ve had a few family members die from Alzheimer’s. Losing someone is never easy, but you lose that person long before they pass away and it’s heartbreaking.

My point is that age is merely a number. There are people well above the age of Biden and have all their mental faculties.

Right, it’s not like no woman would ever lie about such things and it’s not like after 2017 women everywhere became somehow unable to lie about it. I think it’s fair to believe it happens more than some believed before, and such claims deserve careful consideration. Moral panic is never good, however. Historically it’s always led to bad outcomes and overreactions society as a whole tens to regret.

Yes, I think sacrificing innocent people is not good if that was misdirected anger because a slimy sex offender like donnie slid into office. It’s not like something like #metoo cannot oversteer into a moral panic like so many other similar things have done. Do I think anyone deserves to be sexually assaulted (there are male victims as well) - of course not. And of course I think people that perpetuate such assaults need to be appropriately punished.

We should also recognize that women are capable of lying about such things, and these kind of things are obviously weaponized only against Democratic politicians for the most part. If a Republican gets all gropey and creepy, nothing seems to be done about it (at least in some very notable cases), even if verified in a court of law.

Nah, how about we put up the most likely to win that has policies that are popular, regardless if they happen to be a white man or not. I’m sure most POC within the Democratic Party can recognize attempts at manipulation by ticking checkboxes and pandering.

The drumbeat from so-called feminists and the “liberal media” would have just kept on going until he did.

Ugh, I just got done listening to the portion in the audiobook for Maher’s book where he goes over how the #metoo thing was only really a weapon used against Democrats and talks about Franken.

I’d love to see Franken run, but the depressing fact is that he was thrown under the bus for a ridiculous overreaction called the #metoo thing, and there will be many so-called feminists coming for him with guns blazing.

Thing is, these people will not be satisfied with “only” coming after a certain subset of citizens, by the way.

That’s just it, though - because he decided to run again, and is an incumbent, very few challenged him.

That one year made a huge difference, I guess.

Who cares how old they are as long as they have the right positions on the issues and a sound mind? I love having people with some wisdom in there.

Get Gavin Newsom in there. If there is someone better than he is for this role, put them in there. For the love of god, I hope they don’t end up with Kamala though. She’s going to have the same problem as Hillary only more so.

But Biden’s numbers are just not looking good. His performance is already being used in campaign ads. I just don’t know how he wins in 2024.

This. I’m behind Biden 100% if he’s on the ticket this fall. No other option. But I’d much rather the Democratic Party switch him out right now, because the low-info, the Elevated Centrists, the normies, etc…are going to stay home or vote for donnie given what we all saw with our own eyes. It hurts to say it, even to think it, but it’s the truth. And it will cost us dearly as anyone in this country that is not some far-right wing demon.

No amount of DNC gaslighting is going to change that fact.

Yeah, I’m thinking of all the low-info types that will be shown clips of Biden, etc…and go vote for donnie, because, hey, at least he’s younger.

I don’t give a rip about Biden’s age - it’s just a number and I’m not someone dumb enough to think being younger makes a politician somehow magically better than someone older. And if he’s slower and has senior moments - SFW. As long as he wins. Then Kamala can be President if he needs to step down. But we need to win. And that is not likely to happen with the way things are going right now.

Look, I’ll vote for Biden this fall, because really, voting blue is the only serious option. And I’d be all for Weekend At Bernie’s the entire 4 years of his second term; there is a chain of succession and he’ll have people around him that are competent. I’m not worried about that. Anything else is helping donnie.

But c’mon. Is Biden the only candidate that the Democratic Party really has? Can he actually win? After that performance?

Oh please. Just stop the gaslighting.

Put someone else in there. Someone that will FIGHT like hell for this country and its people against the con menace.