The negative prices indicate instability in the whole energy system, that’s not necessarily a capitalism thing. Don’t get me wrong I hate capitalism and love sun and wind energy, but many people are ignorant about the fluctuations and the fact that energy storage is not a solved problem right now.
But the original post doesn’t say “it is unstable and has a problem of storage” but “it drives down prices”
No matter the reality of things, the post is concerned by the very capitalistic issue of making money out of it. It might not be the main issue, but it is for them.
That isn’t the limitation though, it’s the consequence. The phrasing of the tweet is extremely memable, but thinking about it for 5 seconds should make you realize that negative prices mean they REALLY need to get rid of it. Because having too much energy in the grid is a problem.
I’ll take the armchair YouTuber scientist, thanks!
It’s gonna be cheaper for me to store energy myself than it is to pay an energy company so they can profit. I may not benefit from the economy of scale that a large installation provides, but I’m not gonna benefit from that anyhow. Some rich asshole is gonna skim the cream off that. I’ll benefit by not paying what they charge.
Scientists: Hi here is a physical, technical, materially real limitation of most renewables that most of you should know about by now.
Shitforbrains shitter leftie: must be capitalism
If the technical limitation is “it drives down prices” then it is about capitalism, yes.
How do you even manage to not get that?
The negative prices indicate instability in the whole energy system, that’s not necessarily a capitalism thing. Don’t get me wrong I hate capitalism and love sun and wind energy, but many people are ignorant about the fluctuations and the fact that energy storage is not a solved problem right now.
But the original post doesn’t say “it is unstable and has a problem of storage” but “it drives down prices”
No matter the reality of things, the post is concerned by the very capitalistic issue of making money out of it. It might not be the main issue, but it is for them.
That isn’t the limitation though, it’s the consequence. The phrasing of the tweet is extremely memable, but thinking about it for 5 seconds should make you realize that negative prices mean they REALLY need to get rid of it. Because having too much energy in the grid is a problem.
No it isn’t. Use it. Run a big fan or something.
Energy sector paid scientists.
I’ll take the armchair YouTuber scientist, thanks!
It’s gonna be cheaper for me to store energy myself than it is to pay an energy company so they can profit. I may not benefit from the economy of scale that a large installation provides, but I’m not gonna benefit from that anyhow. Some rich asshole is gonna skim the cream off that. I’ll benefit by not paying what they charge.
i mean yeah capitalism is a materially real limitation here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯