I don’t want to be overly offensive, but as someone who has watched the US slowly turn to chum over the decades, I’m not in favour of a mass immigration of Americans to other Western countries. How about you just stay at home and fix things. Most western countries don’t experience the same sort of weird and dangerous political problems that are now your way of life.
Just copy what others do. Dump guns as a social artifact, tone down the worst aspects of capitalism, perhaps compulsory voting, adopt a fairer taxation system, and strengthen social security. All other western countries do this to a smaller or greater extent and none of us are perfect or have any less problems in other areas.
I’m definitely not saying that other countries are better, we are not. It’s just that you definitely have particular problems and if you can’t change them, you better just build that wall.
Nah, fuck this place. I would love to see westernized countries just flat out say “doctors, engineers, lawyers, medical professionals, successful business people, etc., come move here. We will fast track you all and even buy your house in the USA from you at market price”
Then watch as the brain drain kills the USA, and the bitch ass rural banjo players can live out their dreams. Of course life expectancy will drop to 32 years old as they all die of preventable disease. But who cares? Bootstraps! Jesus!
That’s the dream, maybe. But other Western countries already have a professional class. We already have doctors etc. And, Australia already has niche immigration, but we can’t afford to just throw open the doors. No, you guys need to just learn to sink or swim. Or, just vote. 40 million Americans didn’t bother last time. You let the hicks and boobs just steal the country from under your feet.
No need for drastic action, just a will to change.
Nah, America had its run. There is no need to stay here. The entire professional class leaving would give conservatives the date they deserve.
Why should anyone care about a Trump voter or their welfare? They vote for fascist trash. Let them live in that world and perish of starvation accordingly.
I don’t think that you are picking up on my point. It’s not what you want, as an American, on migrating to another western country, it’s who that country wants to accept. It is extremely difficult to get residency in western countries. Being an American doesn’t put you in front of the queue. It’s not that we don’t like Americans, it’s just that you are no-one special in immigration terms. Same as if I wanted to immigrate to your country. I’m nobody special just because I have an Australian passport. I’d have to stand in the back of a very long line.
Best you work on dealing with Trump at the ballot box.
Every time this discussion comes around, I remember a scene from The Day After Tomorrow that makes me laugh very loud, that is Americans ilegally crossing the border to Mexico and then the Mexico pres having pity of the US and admitting the immigrants in exchange for the US forgiving the entire national debt.
But we all know educated and/or wealthy immigrants are welcome almost everywhere. Wealthy, at least; Educated is much more complicated…
We have the distinct disadvantage of absurdly expensive education, which means decades to waste here before debts are paid. Also insanely expensive insurance, so don’t get seriously ill or have any kind of accidents (that’ll cost you either way). Rent? (That’s tripled, fuck you.) Have your parents died and left you money? (JFC they’re still alive and poorly spent their savings on garbage and Trump scams? Game over.)
Wait. Is the world going to have to deal with a flood of American immigrants now? That’s going to be delicious.
The good thing is that immigration is meant to be selective- we can pick and choose.
I feel like Mexico may need to put up a border wall shortly.
They got any internets down there?
I don’t want to be overly offensive, but as someone who has watched the US slowly turn to chum over the decades, I’m not in favour of a mass immigration of Americans to other Western countries. How about you just stay at home and fix things. Most western countries don’t experience the same sort of weird and dangerous political problems that are now your way of life.
Just copy what others do. Dump guns as a social artifact, tone down the worst aspects of capitalism, perhaps compulsory voting, adopt a fairer taxation system, and strengthen social security. All other western countries do this to a smaller or greater extent and none of us are perfect or have any less problems in other areas.
I’m definitely not saying that other countries are better, we are not. It’s just that you definitely have particular problems and if you can’t change them, you better just build that wall.
Nah, fuck this place. I would love to see westernized countries just flat out say “doctors, engineers, lawyers, medical professionals, successful business people, etc., come move here. We will fast track you all and even buy your house in the USA from you at market price”
Then watch as the brain drain kills the USA, and the bitch ass rural banjo players can live out their dreams. Of course life expectancy will drop to 32 years old as they all die of preventable disease. But who cares? Bootstraps! Jesus!
That’s the dream, maybe. But other Western countries already have a professional class. We already have doctors etc. And, Australia already has niche immigration, but we can’t afford to just throw open the doors. No, you guys need to just learn to sink or swim. Or, just vote. 40 million Americans didn’t bother last time. You let the hicks and boobs just steal the country from under your feet.
No need for drastic action, just a will to change.
Nah, America had its run. There is no need to stay here. The entire professional class leaving would give conservatives the date they deserve.
Why should anyone care about a Trump voter or their welfare? They vote for fascist trash. Let them live in that world and perish of starvation accordingly.
I don’t think that you are picking up on my point. It’s not what you want, as an American, on migrating to another western country, it’s who that country wants to accept. It is extremely difficult to get residency in western countries. Being an American doesn’t put you in front of the queue. It’s not that we don’t like Americans, it’s just that you are no-one special in immigration terms. Same as if I wanted to immigrate to your country. I’m nobody special just because I have an Australian passport. I’d have to stand in the back of a very long line.
Best you work on dealing with Trump at the ballot box.
Most are too poor to get out. I looked I to it and no one wants you unless your rich or moving to a shit hole.
Every time this discussion comes around, I remember a scene from The Day After Tomorrow that makes me laugh very loud, that is Americans ilegally crossing the border to Mexico and then the Mexico pres having pity of the US and admitting the immigrants in exchange for the US forgiving the entire national debt.
But we all know educated and/or wealthy immigrants are welcome almost everywhere. Wealthy, at least; Educated is much more complicated…
We have the distinct disadvantage of absurdly expensive education, which means decades to waste here before debts are paid. Also insanely expensive insurance, so don’t get seriously ill or have any kind of accidents (that’ll cost you either way). Rent? (That’s tripled, fuck you.) Have your parents died and left you money? (JFC they’re still alive and poorly spent their savings on garbage and Trump scams? Game over.)
Not if we win this election. But if we can’t kill this stupid christofascist movement, then yeah probably, at some point.