• slickgoat@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I don’t want to be overly offensive, but as someone who has watched the US slowly turn to chum over the decades, I’m not in favour of a mass immigration of Americans to other Western countries. How about you just stay at home and fix things. Most western countries don’t experience the same sort of weird and dangerous political problems that are now your way of life.

    Just copy what others do. Dump guns as a social artifact, tone down the worst aspects of capitalism, perhaps compulsory voting, adopt a fairer taxation system, and strengthen social security. All other western countries do this to a smaller or greater extent and none of us are perfect or have any less problems in other areas.

    I’m definitely not saying that other countries are better, we are not. It’s just that you definitely have particular problems and if you can’t change them, you better just build that wall.

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      Nah, fuck this place. I would love to see westernized countries just flat out say “doctors, engineers, lawyers, medical professionals, successful business people, etc., come move here. We will fast track you all and even buy your house in the USA from you at market price”

      Then watch as the brain drain kills the USA, and the bitch ass rural banjo players can live out their dreams. Of course life expectancy will drop to 32 years old as they all die of preventable disease. But who cares? Bootstraps! Jesus!

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        5 months ago

        That’s the dream, maybe. But other Western countries already have a professional class. We already have doctors etc. And, Australia already has niche immigration, but we can’t afford to just throw open the doors. No, you guys need to just learn to sink or swim. Or, just vote. 40 million Americans didn’t bother last time. You let the hicks and boobs just steal the country from under your feet.

        No need for drastic action, just a will to change.

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          5 months ago

          Nah, America had its run. There is no need to stay here. The entire professional class leaving would give conservatives the date they deserve.

          Why should anyone care about a Trump voter or their welfare? They vote for fascist trash. Let them live in that world and perish of starvation accordingly.

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            I don’t think that you are picking up on my point. It’s not what you want, as an American, on migrating to another western country, it’s who that country wants to accept. It is extremely difficult to get residency in western countries. Being an American doesn’t put you in front of the queue. It’s not that we don’t like Americans, it’s just that you are no-one special in immigration terms. Same as if I wanted to immigrate to your country. I’m nobody special just because I have an Australian passport. I’d have to stand in the back of a very long line.

            Best you work on dealing with Trump at the ballot box.