I’d live in perpetual winter if I could. You can dress for the cold, but at some point the heat and humidity make it impossible to be comfortable outside regardless of your outfit.
Winter is hell for me. I live in Sweden, and the winters are just the worst. Everything sort of comes to a stop, people feel miserable, it’s constantly dark and you sort of go into an emotional hibernation of sorts. Also dressing for the cold is not exactly easy either, you would have to go around with a balaclava to not get that biting cold that just cuts through all clothing and hurts your face.
But yeah, cold in itself would be manageable to a certain degree if it was bright until like 7 PM the winter around. Cold is annoying and difficult, and dark is annoying and difficult, but together it’s almost handicapping to me, even though I don’t feel like I have SAD or anything like that.
It doesn’t help that it seems as though our climate has changed so we either have A) Summer from June to August, and then a fucking eternal autumn (but the sad part of autumn without any leaves and constant grey skies and wet brown leaves on the ground) from September to January, and then winter from January to April, spring from late April to June.
B) Summer from June to August, autumn in late september to October, then winter and snow from November to fucking May, and then we have spring for 2 weeks and then we head directly into summer.
Yeah idk. Winter is not for me.
It depends on where in Sweden you live of course, but I always loved the moment the first snow was on the ground. It immediately makes the entire surroundings feel less glum, even during the short days of winter.
Agree on the impact of climate change though. The seasons used to be reliable like clockwork, and that hasn’t really been the case for the last decade and a half or so.
Come to Maine if you live in the US. You’ll get your fill of winter really quick. A lot of people leave after their first winter here because it’s too much and far too expensive to have to burn kerosine for 6 months.
I live in Canada today, and used to live in Sweden. I’m perfectly fine with winter and heating the house, dressing for it, etc. I’ll compromise my stance by saying early spring is nice, but man do I hate summer heat and humidity. And don’t get me started on mosquitoes and other summer bugs.
I can agree with that. I can’t stand the black flies in the summer and theres no ticks in winter.
Winter for six months? Fuck it, I’m there :)
Good luck friend! I’ll give you a fair warning rent is insane here and unless you bring a remote wage you’ll likely be traveling an hour or more for work. The best jobs are in southern maine but within 30 miles of where I live you’re looking at paying at least 1800 a month for a one bedroom. If you can afford to live in the city you probably won’t have to deal with all of the snow removal.
I used to think as you do, but in the heat a moist cooling towel worn about the neck, especially when paired with a wide brimmed hat, can be a great comfort.
Once the humidity gets high enough this doesn’t really work anymore, at least, in my personal experience. Wet clothes stay wet, but you’re still sweating.
At that point simple tricks don’t work so well and you just have to start spending energy to move heat around
yesterday it was 31° outside and 100% humidity. My bath towel is still wet after hanging at night.
Being hot and sweaty is uncomfortable, granted.
But there’s a point where the cold is outright physically painful. And unless you’re wearing a full face mask, you’re pretty much always going to have some part of yourself exposed.
You also have to weigh the discomfort of being hot against the discomfort of wearing a ton of heavy clothing, and even all the time wasted pulling on and taking off coats, hats, & etc. every time you to outside.
For me, summer wins every time.
I’ve been outside bundled up in 0°. It was unpleasant.
I’ve been outside in as little as I could legally get away with in 110°.
No contest: I’ll take the cold.
I also prefer the cold myself, but you know it gets much colder than 0°F in lots of places right?
There isn’t a place on Earth that gets cold enough that you can’t put on enough clothing to make it surviveable for a few hours.
The human body is endothermic. It regulates it’s own temperature by burning energy to create heat, but it doesn’t have a mechanism to cool itself in a humid environment.
At high humidity, 95 degrees can be lethal to a hydrated, healthy adult.
Last summer we 45 consecutive days over 100 degrees in a very humid climate.
Yeah I’d go even further. I’ve been in -25° in full goose down and warmers, it was pretty rough but with protection doable. I’ve been in 113° drinking water with cold rag on my neck and I could feel my internal organs straining to keep me alive.
The first I was able to withstand for a few hours, the second was max only 15 minutes. I’d take the -20°, it’s not even close.
I’d imagine arctic temps is where the scales start to switch, like -60° where your skin starts to flay and your blood can’t pump after a few minutes of exposure. But those temps only exist in a handful of desolate places, 110°+ is starting to show where humans live.
To each their own of course, but I’m perfectly fine dressing for the cold. Sure, once temperatures get below -35C it’s not the most comfortable to be outside and you’ll want to get good at layering, but I still much prefer it over the inverse (temperatures of 35C and over).
Pull off your skin
I’d rather be cold and miserable then hot and angry.
Title of your sex tape?
If you’re cold in winter you can always put on another layer.
If you’re hot in summer, eventually all you can do is suffer. :)
It feels like we have to keep screaming this at peoples faces for them to understand.
It’s impossible to survive and be productive or do anything useful in the fucking heat.
It’s impossible to survive and be productive or do anything useful in the fucking heat.
Everyone who lives anywhere near the equator, most farmers, Australians, and the entire African continent might take exception to that claim. You can say you prefer the cold all you like, and that’s fine, but this sound like a you problem.
Some people prefer being hot to being cold. Like me. Except for when I’m sleeping.
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Ohh damn. Why didn’t I think of that? Thank you.
BRB, gonna go have a fun time.
Same here except I can sleep well enough up to around 90 degrees. Above that and I will need a fan.
barefoot & shirtless == unproductive/no-expectations-from-me and i wouldn’t have it any other way. lol
Just cleared a baseball infield 2 days in a row in 98-degree heat with jeans on. You will never catch me out there in winter. Scream all you want, I hate the cold and am fine with the heat.
Also it’s trivial to turn matter or electricity into heat, but you can’t go the other way. Best you can do is move the heat from inside to outside, and make it everyone else’s problem.
My layers only keep the cold inside, I suspect I might be a reptile.
The best part about winter, is that if you are still cold, you can always light something on fire.
Instructions unclear, M&M’s container on fire around cylinder.
It’s so hot you’ve switched to the fireman’s technique. Heat jacket to keep radiating heat from the outside environment from getting in.
Same, wrists and soul are always cold.
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In Holland we have 99% humidity all winter with temperatures right around freezing and no matter how many layers you add the cold wet air seeps in and chills you to the bone.
I see you have not experienced -30C going on and and on for weeks on end. I promise you, the little wet chills are better. Especially when its windy, though I imagine you dutch know all about that nastyness.
I’ve experienced -50c where I live, it’s typically only for a few days per winter but those days are absolutely terrible. It literally hurts to breathe when you’re outside and you can feel your nose freezing up, and your eyelashes freeze shut if you blink too long or too much.
Even a quick 5 minute walk is excruciating. It’s always a good reminder of my mortality to be outside in that weather, being locked out of warmth would be a quick death sentence.
Yep, we do get those occasional -40C days every few winters. You put it well, it’s a good reminder ones mortality and that we really shouldnt have left the savanna, to be totally honest.
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This cliche has always landed flat for me. Always cold or uncomfortable in the winter with a dozen layers, and don’t suffer in the heat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Right? No matter what I wear, I’ll inevitably start freezing/being cold, especially my feet which I can’t just put extra layers on. Add to that eyes watering intensely in the cold, windy weather, plus runny nose, so can’t wear anything over it for any extended time, lest I bathe my face in snot. No, thank you. Give me summer and a fan.
Or use AC
AC doesn’t work outdoors tho.
Pools do, but that isn’t exactly realistic for people working physical labor.
Of course it’s Dubai
Or remove another layer.
I have radiators. What I do not have is an air conditioner. Summer is constant suffering.
Any reason you don’t buy one? If summer is so hard it seems like a good investment. You can even get the portable kinds that are way easier to install.
I love winter. 6 hours of sun per day and the color gray is all I ever wanted in life.
Gray his house With a gray little window And a gray corvette And everything is gray for him
I think Winter is pretty. The blowing snow, the silhouettes of trees, icicles… And the sounds are pretty cool, too. The wind, the crunchy footsteps…
Crunchy? In wet and salty sludge?
You’re mistaking winter for a christmas postcard.
i love winter too. here it’s ice and snow, and no sun. during summer the damn sun won’t go down at all so i can’t sleep!
Ah yes because staying inside all day because it’s too hot and humid and the grey skies from rain is amazing as well.
Come on now. Sometimes it’s in that sweet spot where it’s not hot enough to kill you but it’s hot enough to make you want to go to a place full of gritty sand, sharp rocks, obnoxious birds, and aquatic predators so you can cool down in the water which will ensure you need to consistently reapply the cancer-prevention lotion that makes it impossible to hold your drink that you desperately need to finish to stay hydrated in this nice relaxing open-air oven.
Way better than wearing a scarf. You’d have to pick out one that’s aesthetically pleasing to you, and then feel all cozy wrapping it up around your chin. Yuck. Give me kneecap sunburn any day, thank youuuuu!
This. 100000 times this.
Autumn is better than both of them
Autumn has leaves that I need to rake.
You dont need to rake them, you want to rake them. They make nice piles to dive in if you have a lot
There is no such thing as too cold. There is only under dressed. At least that’s what the old fucks say. I like me a toasty summer but that doesn’t make it any less true thst its easier to get warm when your cold than it is to get cool when your too hot.
There is no such thing as too cold. There is only under dressed.
Which comes with extra kilograms of clothes on you. When it is getting warm and you get rid of them, it is one of the best feelings.
Something tells me you’ve never experienced negative degree weather. You can dress warm, but that only goes so far until you freeze to death. Yes I get it it’s uncomfortable to be warm, but if you go inside, go for a swim, or find some shade, you will survive. You cannot survive extreme cold without specialized gear plus shelter and that’s barely surviving without burning resources for heat.
I’ve worked outside in -50 with a 30km/h wind, more than once. It’s not fun, but I would take that in a heartbeat to +40. I can dress for -50; at +40 there’s only so many clothes I can take off before I get arrested.
For freedom unit fans he means Celsius . 104f
And I’ve worked in sweltering heat with high humidity and it’s a lot easier for a layman to survive the heat than the cold. You need gear and burning resouces to survive the cold. All you need with the heat is some shade and maybe a dip in the river/lake/pool. Like I said in my other comment, there’s a reason homeless flock to warm climates. It’s easier to survive.
People surviving Antarctica be like:
Also…astronauts…
You have just proven you have never been anywhere actually cold, at least not with adequate clothing. What temperature do you suppose people just magically start freezing to death regardless of their clothing?
I live in Maine, the state with the most power outages in the US. 6 months out of the year I have to pay for heat to live and whenever we get a winter storm it’s likely to knock out power for a week for anyone in the boonies. I know how fucking quick cold turns deadly without gear and resources. A lot of people take heat and power for granted.
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laughs in Icelandic 16°C no mosquitos summer
that’s it, I’m moving to iceland
Watch out for the inbreeding tho.
Too bad about the cost of living there, but it sounds like absolute paradise outside of that.
Sometimes I wonder if I’d prefer mosquitos over swarms of lúsmý, at least they don’t bite
It’s not the heat that kills me. It’s mostly the added humidity. (Germany)
Here me out please.
Throughout most of the time humans existed we lived a migratory existence. It is only with the adoption of agriculture that staying in one place sense made sense.
Now here we are, with like 2% of our population involved with agriculture and still living that way.
We should all migrate like birds and stay in cooler climes during summer and warmer climes in the winter.
Obviously this is a huge change, but we can do it!
You’re not fooling me, birds. I know a bird account when I see it.
Yeah, nah. We weren’t that migratory. Birds change continents on the regular. We might move inland or down the river a bit.
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But think of the industries, how will the CEO’s and shareholders buy their second yacht, if all the lowly employees got to live comfortably. The masses must suffer for the benefit of the few.
And why do you think they buy yachts? To make sure that they can migrate.
Can I just retreat to a dank cave like I normally do in the summer?
Dank
Over time, agriculture led to ownership culture, and one of the most stable investments and forms of wealth has always been land.
As long as land is a valued commodity, nomadic culture is impossible.
You ever been swarmed by mosquitoes in the snow? No? Case closed.
Wait what. I don’t see any mosquitos in summer. But in winter it’s hell.
That’s because your winter is many people’s summer temps.
Oh makes sense. So mosquitoes don’t survive extreme heat or cold. Got it.
No clue where you live, but in the southeast US the mosquitoes aren’t nearly as bad in winter, in my experience.
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Summer here (south of Spain) is shit. The heat is unbearable.
Truly missing the suffering I experienced there with 39°C under shadow. Eternal suffering. Having to change clothes 3 times a day.
