Colorado used to disallow collection of rainwater too because people further down the line supposedly had the rights to that water.
You’re now allowed something like 2 - 30 gallon barrels to collect it here now.
Late stage capitalism: where they decide someone owns the fucking rain.
Water rights are the opposite of late stage capitalism. It’s silly to enforce when we’re talking about a residential rain barrel, but when we’re talking on much larger scales is critical. When creeks are drying up because landowners are building catchment ponds, water rights start to look pretty good.
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Shit happened to jewish people. Israel is made up of zionists.
It’s an important distinction, which zionists want us to ignore.
Agreed. People like Norman Finkelstein make the distinction obvious
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the frustrating nauseating dance of “please don’t think I’m racist” has gotten even older over the past month
Like it’s hard to spot a bigot in the first place. It’s not antisemitic to conflate Israel and Jews until the equivocation is central to your thinking.
Conflating support for Palestinians as antisemitic or pro-Hamas is just bad-faith nonsense made up by people who don’t care about being coherent, but are too timid to just go ahead and use the slurs.
It’s illegal or highly fined in a lot of other countries as well. (Especially during dry seasons)
In other countries they don’t cut you off from water infrastructure either though. Context is important.
Israel provides 13% of water. Hamas is responsible for the rest. They just build bombs with the water pipes instead.
Hamas isn’t in power in the West Bank.
They have the PLO there and no siege. A/B areas are not under this law since they’re not under Israeli rule.
Except whenever the settlements decide to expand they bring Israeli laws with them. Which is 100 percent a war crime. Or an act of war if you want to pretend the West Bank is a separate country not under occupation.
Those expansions of land and laws are into C areas, which is by the Oslo accords the property of Israel. Now, you can question the legitimacy of the C areas as stated by Oslo, but those terms were agreed upon by the PLO and Israel. It’s a fucked up situation that Israel gets most of the uninhabited land, but that’s what’s been agreed to by both parties. If the peace talks would’ve continued and Rabin wouldn’t have been murdered, and the Intifada wouldn’t have happened, maybe those C area settlements’ expansions wouldn’t have happened.
Israel has long ago broken any accord they made with Palestine. Those agreements were predicated on respecting the sovereignty of Palestine and the decades long blockade and occupation of anywhere they want to be means that accord is dead.
You don’t get to ignore a treaty while demanding the other party respect it.
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That’s atrocious. In your own property, no one else is going to collect it. That’s different from maing huge pipes and drainage systems over the city, just collecting what would otherwise be on your driveway or patio.
It’s one of those things that sounds dumb at first glance, but actually has a lot of sound reasoning behind it, read up on it more if you’re interested
Help the lazy out. What’s the sound reason?
People take it to the logical extreme by converting large tracts in water catching systems. Not an issue if a few do it but it usually isn’t just a few. It starts depleting aquifers and rivers, causing damage to the ecosystem and communities down the way. Doesn’t even need to be water scarce areas either.
Okay so let’s say a million acres get turned into above ground kiddie pools. These people collect and store as much water as they can, so it’s like a million acres times day ten feet deep.
How much of an effect is that water going to have on the surrounding hydrology, being trapped on those properties?
Well, it would amount to about 224 days of average flow of the Colorado River in a given year. So that would probably affect things quite a bit.
Okay, so how close is the actual amount being collected, to a million acres times ten feet deep?
Do you think it’s ten percent of that? Is everyone with an acre keeping the equivalent of a foot of water on their property?
It’s not sanitary, depletes water tables under the earth that naturally filter water as it sinks through the soil, and is not efficient for collection if servicing a large population.
OP is simply spreading pro Hamas propaganda
How is concern about basic human right a pro-hamas propaganda now?
According to the Anything Goes Act of 2022, you are allowed to say whatever horseshit you want and it is a legit argument.
Candy bars? Nuclear death sticks from planet Zorb
Want fries with that? You’re an antisemite. That’ll be $5.87
Collecting rainwater? You’re a Hamas agent and everybody knows it
Hamas is only in Gaza. This is a West Bank thing where the Israeli government imposing it’s own civil laws is a war crime.
Then replace Hamas with whatever insert-terrorist-organization-here.
That’s not how this works. You don’t get to just imagine AQ running a place.
I mean, you’re right that there is an organization terrorizing West Bank. They are also terrorizing Gaza. And a lot of what they are doing serves as pro-Hamas propaganda.
So what’s the reasoning for why Isreal gets to impose that policy on Palestinians?
“All power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
— Mao Zedong
Who knows? Maybe someone should ask the Israeli government instead of assuming without facts.
If you ask me, I think it’s to control where people can drink safe quality water so they can spend less money on humanitarian aid curing easily preventable stagnating water-bourne diseases and shift that same money over to war production against Hamas instead.
I think Hamas wants Israel to stretch its defense budget as thin as possible by deliberately creating humanitarian disasters in Gaza so that Israel can’t spend it on military equipment against Hamas.
Ah yes, ask “no, we didn’t use white phosphorus” isreal
The earth collects the water where it eventually ends up back in the water table.
Fuck the Israeli government 100%, but it’s illegal to collect rainwater in certain US cities, too.
But nobody restricts your regular water supply to less than half of what is considered the bare minimum by the UN.
Well it’s not like Mexico is forbidding the US from collecting.
but it’s illegal to collect rainwater in certain US cities, too.
What do you want to tell me with that?
It’s illegal pretty much anywhere west of the Mississippi River if I recall correctly.
Damn what are cops going to do, confiscate my buckets? Did you know it’s possible to make a diy bucket by melting down ar-15s? You can buy people and harvested organs from the dark web so chances are you can get buckets on there too. Become ungovernable.
Very little good about Israel these days.
are you fucking kidding me?
this is also the law in Los Angeles, for what its worth.
In Los Angeles foreigners don’t break your access to water infrastructure and call the army on you when you attempt to fix it.
That’s so strange to me. Living in Australia, we face very similar periodic drought conditions that California faces as well. Rather than being discouraged from capturing rainwater to use, we’re actively encouraged to do so, with many governments previously offering subsidies for rainwater tanks particularly during drought times. We have specific colourings for rainwater taps (purple) and you can buy signs to put up in your yard that say that you use rainwater, so people don’t get mad if you’re watering your lawn. These subsidies were usually alongside heavy water restrictions including not being able to water lawns; not watering plants during daylight hours; not using a hose to wash your car (a pressure washer from a bucket is allowed) etc.
It is here in Texas too…
The rain in Texas belongs to Israel authorities?
Might as well, they can do no wrong in the eyes of our esteemed leaders…
That’s atrocious. In your own property, no one else is going to collect it. That’s different from maing huge pipes and drainage systems over the city, just collecting what would otherwise be on your driveway or patio.
Same for a lot of places.
Israel wouldn’t bother enforcing it when they can just blow up your house and say you’re Hamas.
I hope domestic needs includes drinking.
Please don’t drink rain water. It’s not safe for human consumption. Plants will be ok, you will not be.
I mean… you know we have filtration technology right?
You don’t drink raw water out of an unclear well or even clear river either bruh
I slurp it straight out of the gutter, leaves and all.
Cometely unrelated but something is wriggling inside my eyeball.
Of course.
How many people in Gaza right now have access to a reverse osmosis filter?
You can distill water with a hole in the ground, a tarp, a coffee can, and a small stone to hold down the center of the tarp.
You can distill your urine this way if it comes to that.
Simply boiling the water is enough to kill most harmful microorganisms that might be in the water.
Of course it is safe. It can contain dust and other particles (nowadays mainly some PFAS), but rainwater itself is quite safe.
Of course if you collect it from your gutters it’s probably dirty from the crap on your roof.
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