I actually read Old English without much effort, as well as the languages it originated from, particularly Old Norse, French, and Germanic.
Degradation of language: misuse of language due to lack of education, erudition, or inclination. I can forgive some misinterpretation and adaptation, but that’s my issue. “Extro” does not make sense, unless someone got it wrong that one time and then spread it around until everyone was saying it wrong. That pisses me off, not to mention it makes me question Phyllis’s judgment on Jung’s corpus of work as a whole, she clearly didn’t read much of it.
There is a difference between a language evolving in response to changes in the environment or the human condition, and a language degrading into “barbar” because nobody bothered to learn how to speak, and thereby write, correctly. I believe that there are no 1:1 transmutations of words in such a manner which wouldn’t remove some amount of information, and the degradation of information is kind of a massive deal to humanity right now.
Let me ask, what does “begging the question” mean to you?
I actually read Old English without much effort, as well as the languages it originated from, particularly Old Norse, French, and Germanic.
Christ man you’re such a liar lmao. GERMANIC ISN’T A LANGUAGE. And certainly not a WRITTEN one. And English didn’t “originate” from French. Old English is unintelligible to Modern English speakers because it’s a completely different language, you are straight up lying through your teeth when you say you can read it fine, much less understand it. 85% of vocabulary in Old English isn’t even present in Modern English. Even more so with Old Norse lmao. French is very clearly unintelligible with English as well. French is literally my second language, so I can very easily tell you that. Why do you feel the need to blatantly lie about being able to understand other languages, including ficticious ones?
Degradation of language: misuse of language due to lack of education, erudition, or inclination. I can forgive some misinterpretation and adaptation, but that’s my issue. “Extro” does not make sense, unless someone got it wrong that one time and then spread it around until everyone was saying it wrong. That pisses me off, not to mention it makes me question Phyllis’s judgment on Jung’s corpus of work as a whole, she clearly didn’t read much of it.
That entire take is just silly. “Language degratation” is a lie sold to you by shitty middle school English Language Arts teachers.
“All living languages are continually undergoing change. Some commentators use derogatory labels such as “corruption” to suggest that language change constitutes a degradation in the quality of a language, especially when the change originates from human error or is a prescriptively discouraged usage. Modern linguistics rejects this concept, since from a scientific point of view such innovations cannot be judged in terms of good or bad. John Lyons notes that “any standard of evaluation applied to language-change must be based upon a recognition of the various functions a language ‘is called upon’ to fulfil in the society which uses it”.”
Again, your stance is seen as completely stupid in the realm of actual linguistics science.
There is a difference between a language evolving in response to changes in the environment or the human condition, and a language degrading into “barbar” because nobody bothered to learn how to speak, and thereby write, correctly. I believe that there are no 1:1 transmutations of words in such a manner which wouldn’t remove some amount of information, and the degradation of information is kind of a massive deal to humanity right now.
There isn’t a difference. How do you think sound change and many other forms of language change occur without this ““degradation””? Do you think that the transitions between languages just happen because God willed it and everyone just accepted it? No, people back then complained about language change in the same exact way that you are now. You are speaking a “bastardized” form of language by your own logic. Every word you speak is completely different from the “educated” proscribed speak of before. Almost none of the words you’re saying are being used in their ““original”” sense.
Let me ask, what does “begging the question” mean to you?
According to your anti-scientific logic, it should mean to approach a question and start begging to it.
I want to ask you again, do you think AAVE, Scottish English, and all other large dialect groups of English are incorrect? Do you think you’re better at linguistics than a majority of professional linguists?
That’s why I wrote it in quotes. ‘Germanic’, and you can fuck off now if you want. Extrovert… lol
Edit: “actual linguistics science” 💀
Here’s something topical, why don’t you read that and get back to me when you finish high school:
Gattir allar,
aþr gangi fram,
vm scoðaz scyli,
vm scygnaz scyli;
þviat ouist er at vita,
hvar ovinir sitia
a fleti fyr.
Egredit: That was a weird flex, I’ll compose myself and write you a proper answer instead because I’m a bit cunty like this and I should really stop belittling people’s intelligence, they are also people in a way.
Ok, when I get back from the store after getting a shitfuck much more alcohol, I’ll treat you to a personal recitation and upload it to you, to calm your nerves, how about that? Would that assuage your doubts? Hey, assuage, that shit’s French too!
Maybe if you record your device on, say, chatgpt and make it generate random old english & old norse, and then attempt to translate them in real time, I’d believe you. But anyone can just pronounce a pretty consistent phonemic orthography ;)
Lmao you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve had a significant amount of formal education in linguistics, considering I was specializing in computational linguistics. I’ve spent many years of my life specifically on linguistics, even before I started my degree which is linguistics focused, and said college education has significantly added onto it.
Every modern, accredited linguistics professor would laugh at your claims. The things you say sound like jokes to anyone with actual knowledge on dialectology and historical linguistics. Even a layman linguist would think you’re insane. Unfortunately your beliefs are also the same that a large portion of the poorly educated populace has, so even though it’s a stupid belief it’s still common for those not educated in linguistics.
You’re just throwing out ad hominem attacks because you have been clearly caught lying out of your ass about knowing multiple things (You can easily “read Germanic”? You think Old English/Norse and French writing is mutually intelligible with English writing to any significant degree? What???). You literally just Googled a random Old Norse manuscript and copy pasted one of the first paragraphs to try to come up with something to back up your claims.
You look silly. There is no more purpose in arguing with you since you clearly refuse to learn from your nonsense drivel being clearly torn apart. You can’t even follow up on your “promises”. Lol
These are definitely good reads for people like you, just to show you what people who have actual linguistics & culture knowledge think of the likes of you:
I actually read Old English without much effort, as well as the languages it originated from, particularly Old Norse, French, and Germanic.
Degradation of language: misuse of language due to lack of education, erudition, or inclination. I can forgive some misinterpretation and adaptation, but that’s my issue. “Extro” does not make sense, unless someone got it wrong that one time and then spread it around until everyone was saying it wrong. That pisses me off, not to mention it makes me question Phyllis’s judgment on Jung’s corpus of work as a whole, she clearly didn’t read much of it.
There is a difference between a language evolving in response to changes in the environment or the human condition, and a language degrading into “barbar” because nobody bothered to learn how to speak, and thereby write, correctly. I believe that there are no 1:1 transmutations of words in such a manner which wouldn’t remove some amount of information, and the degradation of information is kind of a massive deal to humanity right now.
Let me ask, what does “begging the question” mean to you?
Christ man you’re such a liar lmao. GERMANIC ISN’T A LANGUAGE. And certainly not a WRITTEN one. And English didn’t “originate” from French. Old English is unintelligible to Modern English speakers because it’s a completely different language, you are straight up lying through your teeth when you say you can read it fine, much less understand it. 85% of vocabulary in Old English isn’t even present in Modern English. Even more so with Old Norse lmao. French is very clearly unintelligible with English as well. French is literally my second language, so I can very easily tell you that. Why do you feel the need to blatantly lie about being able to understand other languages, including ficticious ones?
That entire take is just silly. “Language degratation” is a lie sold to you by shitty middle school English Language Arts teachers.
“All living languages are continually undergoing change. Some commentators use derogatory labels such as “corruption” to suggest that language change constitutes a degradation in the quality of a language, especially when the change originates from human error or is a prescriptively discouraged usage. Modern linguistics rejects this concept, since from a scientific point of view such innovations cannot be judged in terms of good or bad. John Lyons notes that “any standard of evaluation applied to language-change must be based upon a recognition of the various functions a language ‘is called upon’ to fulfil in the society which uses it”.”
Again, your stance is seen as completely stupid in the realm of actual linguistics science.
There isn’t a difference. How do you think sound change and many other forms of language change occur without this ““degradation””? Do you think that the transitions between languages just happen because God willed it and everyone just accepted it? No, people back then complained about language change in the same exact way that you are now. You are speaking a “bastardized” form of language by your own logic. Every word you speak is completely different from the “educated” proscribed speak of before. Almost none of the words you’re saying are being used in their ““original”” sense.
According to your anti-scientific logic, it should mean to approach a question and start begging to it.
I want to ask you again, do you think AAVE, Scottish English, and all other large dialect groups of English are incorrect? Do you think you’re better at linguistics than a majority of professional linguists?
That’s why I wrote it in quotes. ‘Germanic’, and you can fuck off now if you want. Extrovert… lol
Edit: “actual linguistics science” 💀
Here’s something topical, why don’t you read that and get back to me when you finish high school:
Gattir allar, aþr gangi fram, vm scoðaz scyli, vm scygnaz scyli; þviat ouist er at vita, hvar ovinir sitia a fleti fyr.
Egredit: That was a weird flex, I’ll compose myself and write you a proper answer instead because I’m a bit cunty like this and I should really stop belittling people’s intelligence, they are also people in a way.
It’s so funny seeing you flounder after being called out for your blatant lying lmao. “That’s why I wrote it in quotes”? What???
And it’s funny how you just looked up a random Old Norse text online and copied the first paragraph of the second chapter to try to pretend that you can back up your lies. And now your comeback is “b… but go back to high school! k-kid!”. Pathetic, you need to improve your bullshitting.
Ok, when I get back from the store after getting a shitfuck much more alcohol, I’ll treat you to a personal recitation and upload it to you, to calm your nerves, how about that? Would that assuage your doubts? Hey, assuage, that shit’s French too!
I’m gonna do it for you buddy.
Maybe if you record your device on, say, chatgpt and make it generate random old english & old norse, and then attempt to translate them in real time, I’d believe you. But anyone can just pronounce a pretty consistent phonemic orthography ;)
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Lmao you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve had a significant amount of formal education in linguistics, considering I was specializing in computational linguistics. I’ve spent many years of my life specifically on linguistics, even before I started my degree which is linguistics focused, and said college education has significantly added onto it.
Every modern, accredited linguistics professor would laugh at your claims. The things you say sound like jokes to anyone with actual knowledge on dialectology and historical linguistics. Even a layman linguist would think you’re insane. Unfortunately your beliefs are also the same that a large portion of the poorly educated populace has, so even though it’s a stupid belief it’s still common for those not educated in linguistics.
You’re just throwing out ad hominem attacks because you have been clearly caught lying out of your ass about knowing multiple things (You can easily “read Germanic”? You think Old English/Norse and French writing is mutually intelligible with English writing to any significant degree? What???). You literally just Googled a random Old Norse manuscript and copy pasted one of the first paragraphs to try to come up with something to back up your claims.
You look silly. There is no more purpose in arguing with you since you clearly refuse to learn from your nonsense drivel being clearly torn apart. You can’t even follow up on your “promises”. Lol
These are definitely good reads for people like you, just to show you what people who have actual linguistics & culture knowledge think of the likes of you:
https://www.polysyllabic.com/?q=node/175
https://isismagazine.org.uk/2012/06/the-problem-with-prescriptivism/
This is just pathetic. Honestly. I am going to guess you “didn’t have time” to check my video, right?