• SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    “I feel like criticizing today.”

    “You’ve been criticizing all week Dave, someone has to shovel the cow shit.”

    • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      From a report from an anonymous German spy

      "Washing, grooming and changing his linen are things he does rarely, and he likes to get drunk. Though he is often idle for days on end, he will work day and night with tireless endurance when he has a great deal of work to do. He has no fixed times for going to sleep and waking up. He often stays up all night, and then lies down fully clothed on the sofa at midday and sleeps till evening, untroubled by the comings and goings of the whole world. "

  • AdmiralShat@programming.dev
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    4 months ago

    The fundamental issue I have with anyone who doesn’t understand communism is the massive authoritarian government it takes to kill the millions of civilians. Wait was that not apart of the books? Weird how it keeps happening then

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      The fundamental issue I have with anyone who doesn’t understand capitalism is that it is still directly resulting in mass poverty, starvation, wars for resource robbery, ignored climate crisis but somehow the grand promises of everyone being able to become rich beyond their needs or plausible desires is dangled in front of their eyes while they they are shoved all of the above problems plus pettiest sugar grain up their asses.

      Given how such people can’t even wait 5 minutes in a line or traffic with the physical workings of the efficient and beneficial systems being very apparent, it is not weird how it keeps perpetuating.

  • ben@lemmy.zip
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    If a society is to function people need to be doing the work that isn’t enjoyable as well as the work that’s enjoyable.

    There’s likely not enough people that get genuine enjoyment out of being a garbage man or sewer maintenance worker for a world with everyone doing what they want to work.

    You have to add incentives for the less desirable labour or else the system collapses under its own weight.

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      The USSR gave early retirement to those that worked undesirable jobs, pretty decent incentive. Having undesirable jobs doesn’t make Communism collapse.

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      The solution capitalism gives us is that those jobs pay less. Any able-bodied person can clean toilets, so supply and demand results in little pay for cleaning toilets. However, those same people deserve a basic human life with food, shelter, and companionship, yet they are easily priced out of this. The “incentive” you speak of is the threat of starvation.

      Communism actually recognizes this. Everyone pitches in to get the basic, necessary work done. This tends to be a lot less than generally expected. Most people today are not doing work that is necessary at all.