Libertarians arent liberals unless you compare them to really ancient ones, they have hangups about the role of the state in preserving capitalism which leaves them laughing stock.
So not what most people think of as “liberals” then.
Neoliberals are to liberals what National Socialists are to Socialists.
Take it back to the dictionary definition.
Liberal (noun)
a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Going by the first definition, that’s left. Even going by that second definition, I see three left policies and a right. That’s essentially a lefty being not left enough.
To chalk up libertarian ideology, which BTW, every single anarchist on this site is a left wing libertarian, to just conservatives that don’t want to pay tax, shows just how little you know or care about understanding political ideologies and how they relate.
The difference between liberals and the left is the stance on capitalism. Liberals believe they can make capitalism work, leftists insist we must move beyond it. The people obfuscating liberal and leftist are the people who want the discussion of moving past capitalism to stop. Don’t help them.
Yelling at other lefties for not being left enough is a long and proud tradition.
Liberals aren’t lefties.
Thank you for demonstrating my point without the slightest hint of irony.
Did you step out of a time machine from the 18th century? Liberals now represent conservative forces.
Have you lot just rebadged Libertarians?
Libertarians arent liberals unless you compare them to really ancient ones, they have hangups about the role of the state in preserving capitalism which leaves them laughing stock.
OK, I agree that libertarians are not liberals. They are mostly conservatives who don’t want to pay tax.
I’m still not following on why you don’t think Liberals are Left wing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
So not what most people think of as “liberals” then.
Neoliberals are to liberals what National Socialists are to Socialists.
Take it back to the dictionary definition.
Going by the first definition, that’s left. Even going by that second definition, I see three left policies and a right. That’s essentially a lefty being not left enough.
To chalk up libertarian ideology, which BTW, every single anarchist on this site is a left wing libertarian, to just conservatives that don’t want to pay tax, shows just how little you know or care about understanding political ideologies and how they relate.
The difference between liberals and the left is the stance on capitalism. Liberals believe they can make capitalism work, leftists insist we must move beyond it. The people obfuscating liberal and leftist are the people who want the discussion of moving past capitalism to stop. Don’t help them.
I disagree. There are plenty of examples of liberal anti-capitalists such as David Ellerman