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    7 months ago

    Nobody but tankies understand that.

    In Tolkien stories, all the good guys are liberals. Saruman and his uruk-hai are perhaps the most leftist things there are in those stories. Elves are moderate conservatives with some questionable histories.

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      In Tolkien stories, all the good guys are liberals. Saruman and his uruk-hai are perhaps the most leftist things there are in those stories. Elves are moderate conservatives with some questionable histories.

      I hope everyone here appreciates what a special moment this is. This has potential to be the most downvoted comment on Lemmy.

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        7 months ago

        That comment somehow manages to be more divisive than the Palestinian conflict. A truly remarkable sequence of specious assertions that is guaranteed to piss off vast swathes of the population. Almost brings a tear to my eye

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          Did people forget what divisive means? I would say it’s exactly the opposite of divisive, it’s a comment that is produced as much singular unified reaction as you could possibly get.

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            6 months ago

            I meant what I said. Most people disagree with the comment, but probably for a wide variety of reasons. It’s not a singular reaction, it’s multiple reactions to multiple insinuations that all happen to be questionable.

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        6 months ago

        It’s a bit sad for Lemmy if 76 downvotes gets you to such a status. But mixing an interpretation of Tolkien with an anti-left message might indeed be one of the best ways to get there.

        You might enjoy my other greatest hit: https://suppo.fi/comment/3202858

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        7 months ago

        Because I don’t like leftists, probably :)

        No but seriously, I was thinking of the tankie type there, not all leftists. And wrote lazily. Sorry.

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            7 months ago

            Tankies aren’t leftists

            Well yeah, and nazis are technically authoritarian centrists, not the far right. These labels are bad and they should feel bad.

            Sauron

            Different fella. No idea what his politics are, but probably not very liberal.

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              No, Sauron is the same character I meant to talk about. The master of Saruman. Sauron is a theocratic dictator, and Saruman is, politically speaking, a Bishop-Duke. His ideology must be the same as Sauron’s because he serves Sauron. And Sauron implements theocratic dictatorship in Isengard and Mordor. Theocratic dictatorship, as you must be aware, is a far right ideology. And nazis are also far right, but I’m not sure why they’re the topic of discussion.