• micka190@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    8 months ago

    Because American media keeps pushing the idea that the Democrats are “the left” and because Democrats oppose guns because the Republicans promote them, they equate owning a gun with being a part of “the right”.

    • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Yeah - in non US places gun ownership only means one thing: you own a gun. It says nothing about your politics. And yes, US democrats being referred to as “left” is ridiculous. The Democrat party wouldn’t even be a centrist party in most (western) democracies.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        Believe it or not, there are plenty of Democrat and Republican gun owners alike who view gun ownership the same as you do, and don’t make it their entire identity, political or otherwise. We just don’t get constantly exposed to that reality, because it doesn’t make for interesting headlines, or divisive online debate.

        • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Good. I’m glad. I had my suspicions that was the case but it’s nice to have it confirmed by an insider. I always struggled to believe that an entire nation of so many millions of people would have a one size fits all pro/anti stance on any one topic; it’d be absurd.

        • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          Pepsi - the choice of a new generation… of woke, pronoun-shifting libtards. As an aside I like your spelling. It’s reminded me to listen to Ice Cube’s Amerikkka’s Most Wanted again.

            • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              I remember that now you mention it. Bartering with a super power seemed crazy to me back then. It’s amazing how little seems to have genuinely improved for Russians (specifically) since the fall of the USSR - we had high hopes of a new age but… gestures broadly at the current state of Europe and shakes head.

            • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              8 months ago

              Are you familiar with sarcasm / irony / satire? I’m quoting and subsequently mangling a slogan from 1985. (c. Forty years ago) Surely you haven’t taken that comment at face value?

    • dumpsterlid@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Also far right conservative men are given all the permission in the world to threaten violence whereas many groups of people on the left, and leftism in general are defined by conservatives as inherently dangerous which both makes it practically much more dangerous to own guns and carry them (because you will just got shot by a cop and the cop won’t even get in trouble they can just say “they looked dangerous”) and also makes a culture of responsible gun ownership way harder to grow because the societal conditions around it are aggressively hostile to leftwing people owning guns.

      Listen to the way centrists talk about the threat of violence from the far left and far right in the US, of course there are shitty, dangerous people on the left, but to compare the two as if there were similar amounts of violence coming from both is a ridiculous misstatement of reality.

    • explodicle@local106.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 months ago

      Republicans “support” guns up until black people start marching with them.

      Democrats “oppose” guns except for the police who shoot black people.

    • Neato@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      8 months ago

      Democrats don’t oppose guns. Democrats are for base-level gun control. Republicans are insane, NRA-supporting fools who would rather 5 year old children get massacred weekly instead of have any potential gun controls.