Wonder if this will be another vaporware cease-fire like the one that was in place last October 6th that Hamas decided to ignore on the morning of October 7th.

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    Me too, Biden, me too. If only I had the same power you do to cause one to happen.

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      Yeah, Joe Biden has the power to fix an issue that has been going on for 75 years with a snap of the fingers, but just won’t do it.

      What do you expect him to do?

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        • Stop blocking UN resolutions for a ceasefire

        • Support UN enforcement of the resulting resolution for a ceasefire

        • Stop funding Israel

        • Apply the same kind of sanctions the US applied to Ethiopia when it was committing similar human rights abuses in Tigray a couple of years ago.

        Israel is currently killing people directly at a rate of about 3.6% of the population per year. That’s not a situation that’s bern going on for 75 years.

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          Support UN enforcement of the resulting resolution for a ceasefire

          No country on earth is dump enough to send peacekeepers to that garbage fire. You might as well line up a thousand of your own men and march them one by one into a cattle grinding machine. It would be far far cheaper and more humane.

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            I honestly don’t think it would come to that.

            If the US withdrew support that would be it. If Israel lost the West’s support I don’t think it would attack the UN forces and Hamas has hardly any capabilities.

            Wouldn’t surprise me if the African Union was up for it if it had world support.

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        Stop sending money to Israel. If he can’t do that on his own, at least take a public stand.

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          Christians wont let this happen, they like the bloodshed and think they can accelerate the mythical “battle of Megiddo” and the return of Jesus.

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            This has nothing to do with religion. It’s just a nice scapegoat to blame America wanting a military base in the region on.

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                I doubt, it their entire party coincidentally picks whatever portion of the Bible is convenient for them that day and pack it up for their moronic base to rally behind.

                These people believed Russia was the devil a few years ago and suddenly they don’t care about Ukraine anymore.

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        Stop sending them money and weapons. It’s pretty simple if you stop arguing in bad faith.

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        Literally yes. Israel’s Apartheid is inherently unsustainable and has been surviving using international support (mainly from the US and UK in recent years). Take away the biggest pillar and the whole thing will collapse. Maybe by, say, not vetoing UN resolutions or sending Israel aircraft carriers.

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    Netanyahu told “Face the Nation” on Sunday that a hostage deal would delay the Rafah operation, but said Israel would still move ahead with the operation at a later time.

    Gee that sounds promising

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      Doubtful but the most important thing at this moment is to stop the killing and destruction and solve the humanitarian crisis. Once that is done then a solution can be worked on, though frankly I am pessimistic due to the level of anger and hate at the moment.

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        That’s the thing. Nobody wants to propose an actual solution. Letting Hamas regroup and smuggle in more weapons just returns things to the status que that got us into this situation in the first place.

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          That’s the thing. Nobody wants to propose an actual solution. Letting Israel continue its slow motion genocide and cause more brutal oppression and deaths over decades returns things to the status que that got us into this situation in the first place.

          The only way there can be peace is for Israel to be dismantled and Netanyahu trialed at the Hague for crimes against humanity.

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            The only way there can be peace is for Israel to be dismantled and Netanyahu trialed at the Hague for crimes against humanity.

            There is quite a long lines of countries in the middle east that must receive the same treatment first. It’s funny how they’re always ignored.

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          There is no obvious solution but doing nothing is still better than what’s happening now.

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      Doubtful. But if there is one I can assure you Hamas will break it just like they broke it on October 7th.

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        You do realize that all ceasefires between Palestinian resistance (not Hamas because the one you’re thinking of was with PIJ) and Israel are just return to the status quo ante bellum? Both Israel and the other party agree to just do things as usual for the time being. Gazans sure as hell were being bombed before October 7th.

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          Don’t have any idea where you’re getting misled from but there were quite a few ceasefires between Hamas and Israel and the last one was mediated by Egypt in 2021 and was broken by Hamas on the morning of October 7th. Also, if you guys think Hamas cares one iota about any of the Palestinian civilians, can you explain why they wasted millions of dollars building tunnels to shelter their terrorist leaders instead of one single shelter for any civilian? Please stop getting your news from social media and sites telling you what to think.

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            And did Israel stop bombing Gazans during that ceasefire? Did they lift the blockade? (Hint: The answer is no) If no it’s worthless. That’s why I said these “ceasefires” are returns to the status quo ante bellum.

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              I misspoke. the ceasefire Egypt brokered between Hamas and Israel was on May 14th, 2023 and no, Israel did not bomb Gaza until their retaliation to Hamas breaking the ceasefire with their terrorist attack on the morning of October 7th. the blockade was not even mentioned in the ceasefire and I have no idea why you would think it was. There were quite a few ceasefires since Hamas rolled into town and to be honest ALL of them were necessary because Israel answered Hamas attacks.

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                no, Israel did not bomb Gaza until their retaliation to Hamas breaking the ceasefire with their terrorist attack on the morning of October 7th.

                You know people can tell when you lie, right? Israel has never stopped bombing Gaza due to a ceasefire. Not in 2008, not in 2013, and sure as hell not in 2022 or 2023. Also the 2023 ceasefire was, as I said, between Israel and the PIJ, not Hamas.

                the blockade was not even mentioned in the ceasefire and I have no idea why you would think it was.

                It’s not. Therefore it’s a return to the status quo ante bellum, not a ceasefire. Because the blockade is an act of war.

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                  What bomb was dropped by Israel between May 14th, 2023 and the night of October 7th 2023?

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              Did they lift the blockade?

              Did Hamas stop trying to smuggle in weapons to terrorize Israel with (Hint: the answer is no)

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              Hummus is damn good…oh, you misspelled Hamas, nevermind.

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        Jesus was in all likelihood a person who existed, he just didn’t have the credentials often attributed to him

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          Actually, Documentary evidence outside of the New Testament is limited to put it mildly. Everything else is just second- or third-party claims from decades after he supposedly lived by a few Jewish and Roman scholars, most of which weren’t even alive at the time.

          The false notion that there’s a credible secular consensus stems from a bunch of Christian historians (the concentration of which is higher than in every other specialty within history, for obvious reasons) agreeing with each other that of course their imaginary friend’s son who’s also his own dad and a disembodied spirit TOTALLY existed as a historical figure, nothing religious about believing so! 🙄

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Washington — President Biden said Monday that a deal between Israel and Hamas for a cease-fire in Gaza is close.

    And my hope is that by next Monday we’ll have a cease-fire," Mr. Biden told reporters during a stop in New York City.

    Mr. Biden said earlier this month that the U.S. was working to negotiate a hostage deal between Israel and Hamas that would pause fighting in Gaza for at least six weeks.

    He said the deal would “bring an immediate and sustained period of calm to Gaza for at least six weeks, which we could then take the time to build something more enduring.”

    In early February, as Israel prepared for a ground operation in Rafah, a city near Egypt’s border where more than one million displaced Palestinians are estimated to have taken refuge after fleeing fighting elsewhere in Gaza, Mr. Biden warned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu not to proceed without a “credible” plan for ensuring the safety of the people sheltering there.

    “We can’t leave the last Hamas stronghold without taking care of it, obviously, we have to do it,” Netanyahu said.


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