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No, electric vehicle sales aren’t dropping. Here’s what’s really going on::Tesla has been slashing prices. Ford just cut the price of its Mustang Mach-E, too, plus it cut back production of its electric pickup. And General Motors is thinking about bringing back plug-in hybrids, arguably a step back from EVs.
I’m in the market for a BEV. Have been for 3 years. The reason I don’t have one is:
A. The cars that are large enough for my use case (weekend getaways with kids and or friends) are all super expensive luxury vehicles with poor ratings.
B. Availability. Other than the Mustang Mach-E, nothing is available here (Canada) without a minimum 6 month wait list. (Ioniq 5 is 1 year).
C. Poor reliability and/or features. (See the disaster that is the Chevy Blazer EV).
At this point I’m waiting for the Ioniq 7. Hopefully it will be as well reviewed as it’s sister the EV9.
The reason GM and Ford are not selling well is because nobody wants what they’re selling. But they’re framing it as an general EV issue and not a crap product issue.
The media and those apposed to EVs are buying it of course.
I’m considering to get a Polestar 2 for many reasons but also because… No waiting time 😉
Oh yeah, forgot that one. Way too small for me, but a really nice car. If the Polestar 3 wasn’t so stupid expensive, I’d love to get that.
Picked up a used 2022 Polestar 2 about 6 months ago for nearly half off. No regrets, because it’s an awesome car, and I strongly recommend it
What did it cost you?
I got a lyric and I love ot
Is it so much to ask that I be able to get a vehicle that’s just…normal but also an EV? Not a monster truck, not some space ship looking thing, just like a Honda Accord but an EV…I don’t think that’s asking so much but apparently automakers disagree.
There are a few companies that do this. Tesla, Kia, and Nissan come to mind. I’m not sure what’s available in your location though.
Its GM, Ford, Rivian, Lucid.
Tesla only managed to get close to their targets by dropping prices dramatically.
Rivian and Lucid are exclusively luxury brands. Not shocked that they’re having a hard time pushing cars over 100k CAD. I don’t think they’re atracting the same media attention either.
I still find it super weird. A (remote) coworker bought an ioniq 5 after 9 months on a wait list… 3 months later, I went to a dealership. they had one on the lot (3 actually). Was able to get one with 0 wait.
Looking at their website, they have 4 2024 ioniq 5s available right now, an SEL, SE, and 2x Limited.
So apparently my local dealership is the sweet spot. Or is this purely a Canada vs US thing?
Yes, availability in the US is much better. You can find a base ioniq 5 here easily now, but nobody wants those. Everyone wants the long range AWD.
Yeah, I want a Mach-E (at least in theory) … but I want it to have a good 500-600 mile range (or for the charging network to be much bigger than it is)… It’s unfortunate really
Is the charging network that bad in the US that you need to get that far without charging?
I’m in the market, and the answer is kinda, for non Teslas. I do a road trip up the east coast a few times a year and the Tesla will reliably add about 4 30 minute stops on each half of the trip. A non Tesla also requires four stops, but they could be anywhere from 20 minutes best case to 1 hr plus, depending on the availability and status of the unreliable chargers.
A lucid with 400 miles of true range would probably cut it down to two stops, but I don’t have $140k
So for me I make a trek to my parents house ~150 miles away a few times a year.
In good weather (and good battery condition), I could might be skip hitting the chargers all together, or get a little bit of charging at my parents house from a wall outlet.
Unless my parents (or my grandfather that I also visit fairly regularly who lives the same distance in a different direction) installed a better charger at their place… In colder weather (e.g. Christmas), I’d almost definitely need to use a charger while going at least one direction.
The problem is, in both cases, there are like 5-10 charges total (not charging stations, chargers) where as there are like 5-10 gas stations all right next to the interstate each with at least 4 pumps, many with 8+ pumps.
I’m concerned that during peak travel in cold weather (e.g. Christmas time travel), I could easily find myself in a bad situation where I can’t get a charger because they’re all too far away, broken, or in use. There’s just not enough redundancy.
I test drove the mach-e and really liked it. And it has a surprisingly large amount of storage due to the well designed frunk. The California edition has more than enough range for me. However, the abysmal charging speed has me worried about battery condition. If it’s that slow to charge it means the battery isn’t good under load.