I’ve often thought it would be fun to just punch in some random numbers, send it off and say that I owe $10, pay the amount and let them figure it out … they already do anyway.
But I know that if I do, they’d probably make me pay financially or legally anyway.
they eventually realize you were incorrect and send you a nice letter telling you that you owe them more. If you can’t pay it they will help you work out a payment plan. If you refuse to pay it or elaborate they put a lein on you and your bank and employer will hand them your money. They don’t put you in jail unless you attempt to defraud them willingly they can prove it.
correct you can garner penalties in quite a few ways, however if it was a legit mistake:
We may be able to remove or reduce some penalties if you acted in good faith and can show reasonable cause for why you weren’t able to meet your tax obligations.
they really are quite reasonable about the whole thing
I have had to deal with stuff a few times and to some degree. There is definitely an incentive on the case managers to get a win and its tedius to get them to reverse it. Lots of back and forth and often times they are not taking the whole file so you have to remind them about something from like the first correspondence. I had one where I had messed up as I did not take into account gains/losses from inheritance (inheritance is not taxed but if you get stock and then sell it you have to take the difference) but the thing is it had more losses so they owed me money. After half a dozen correspondences I paid them a small amount and aired that this was just to resolve the matter and I am still actually owed money but at some point the work im doing to get the thing recotified is less than minimum wage.
I somehow forgot to do my taxes in 2011 (was a student and travelling), it took them 10 years to come at me asking about it. Now I have no access to any of that info and even if I did they’d owe me money. Their systems are slow unless you owe a lot I think.
I’ve often thought it would be fun to just punch in some random numbers, send it off and say that I owe $10, pay the amount and let them figure it out … they already do anyway.
But I know that if I do, they’d probably make me pay financially or legally anyway.
they eventually realize you were incorrect and send you a nice letter telling you that you owe them more. If you can’t pay it they will help you work out a payment plan. If you refuse to pay it or elaborate they put a lein on you and your bank and employer will hand them your money. They don’t put you in jail unless you attempt to defraud them willingly they can prove it.
there will be fines and fees with that though.
correct you can garner penalties in quite a few ways, however if it was a legit mistake:
they really are quite reasonable about the whole thing
I have had to deal with stuff a few times and to some degree. There is definitely an incentive on the case managers to get a win and its tedius to get them to reverse it. Lots of back and forth and often times they are not taking the whole file so you have to remind them about something from like the first correspondence. I had one where I had messed up as I did not take into account gains/losses from inheritance (inheritance is not taxed but if you get stock and then sell it you have to take the difference) but the thing is it had more losses so they owed me money. After half a dozen correspondences I paid them a small amount and aired that this was just to resolve the matter and I am still actually owed money but at some point the work im doing to get the thing recotified is less than minimum wage.
I somehow forgot to do my taxes in 2011 (was a student and travelling), it took them 10 years to come at me asking about it. Now I have no access to any of that info and even if I did they’d owe me money. Their systems are slow unless you owe a lot I think.