• THE MASTERMIND@feddit.ch
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    10 months ago

    Well then she could be a daddy’s girl who got everything she ever wanted and just doesn’t understand the concept that the world doesn’t revolve around her. Glad someone could show it to her.

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      Well then she could be a daddy’s girl who got everything she ever wanted and just doesn’t understand the concept that the world doesn’t revolve around her. Glad someone could show it to her.

      Such a strange immature response to that comment. You know nothing about that person, you don’t know their maturity level, or what they’ve been given in life for free and what they needed to fight for.

      All they did was ask if the person could finish up so that she could have the table, a shared resource that’s in limited supply that all citizens would need to use at that restaurant.

      You know sometimes you really don’t have to be such hard asses to each other, truly. Even if it was a little over the top, we only have one side of what was literally said, and the tone of how it was said was not included at all.

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          Has anyone ever asked you to hurry up and finish so they can have your table?

          I’ve been almost done with a meal and somebody askes me if I’ll be vacating the table soon. I’ll answer them yes, especially in a crowded venue.

          I would consider it rude the hog the table, especially when there are no tables available and I’m done with my meal. My ego is not that fragile that I can’t handle doing another human being a favor and getting out of there so they can have the table (as long as I’m done that is).

          Its such a weird thing to argue over, and looking at the downvotes, it seems like people here on Lemmy are just really pissed off at people these days (or they are conflict bots). No good things will come from that level of anger.

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            I would consider it rude the hog the table

            and I consider it similarly rude to just walk up and tell someone “hurry up”.

            why are you acting like the person at the table now is inherently inferior to the one that wants the table? OP is “hogging” the table as much as the girl would have when she sat with her friends. less, because she’s there to meet someone socially and not just eat and leave. she’ll be “hogging the table” for a lot longer. if someone new walks in right when her friend sits down with her and says “leave, this is my table now”, you believe the correct course of action would be to immediately end the friend meetup and vacate immediately, as commanded? what if the new person is just 1 person? what if the new person represents a party of 5?

            if your goal, as it seems, is to minimized use of the shared resources to maximize throughput use and thus make it available for the most people, then you would not support the idea of meeting friends at a restaurant at all.

            why is the person sitting alone using the table for its intended purpose of eating a meal from the restaurant inherently inferior to a person wanting to claim a space to sit at and socialize for a while? why are the latter so superior that it justifies such rude behavior towards the prior?

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              10 months ago

              I would consider it rude the hog the table

              and I consider it similarly rude to just walk up and tell someone “hurry up”.

              It’s a shared resource in limited supply.

              The rudeness would definitely be on the person hogging it.

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                why do you believe a single person using the table to eat food from the establishment is “hogging” it, whereas two people using the table for a social meeting aren’t?

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                  whereas two people using the table for a social meeting aren’t?

                  Why would you meet socially at a restaurant if you’re not going to eat, especially one that’s so busy that it’s hard to find seating?

                  You would find somewhere else with more seating that doesn’t serve food if your only goal was to socially interact with each other.

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                    Why would you meet socially at a restaurant if you’re not going to eat, especially one that’s so busy that it’s hard to find seating?

                    The reasoning is irrelevant.

                    If I had the table first, and someone came up to me like the OP and said what they said like that, I am perfectly within my rights to occupy that table out of spite and order more, so long as management doesn’t care.

                    Want a table so bad? Get there earlier or make a reservation. Don’t hurry people along like you own the place, because you don’t.

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            Its such a weird thing to argue over, and looking at the downvotes, it seems like people here on Lemmy are just really pissed off at people these days (or they are conflict bots). No good things will come from that level of anger.

            You’ve been arguing so much in the comments that you’ve forgotten OP’s stated story and adopted your own fiction to defend. Like you said, it’s a weird thing to argue over, because what you’re talking about is not what anybody else is talking about. That’s why you’re getting down voted. But sure, convince yourself it’s pissed off people or “conflict bots,” whatever the hell that is. More fiction for your la-di-da world.

            Where I come from if someone gracefully asked if I’d be leaving soon I’d have no problem accommodating them if it suited me fine. The operative word is suited, because I don’t owe strangers anything. I can choose to be generous, or be in my right to reserve my generosity for someone who is more deserving. Doing so doesn’t make me a bad person.

            However, this is not what happened according to OP. The person suggested they hurry because they needed their table. That’s so rude I’m completely blown away at your effort here in the comments to white wash it and scold others for not being doormats like you want to be. Have fun with that.

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              But sure, convince yourself it’s pissed off people or “conflict bots,”

              If people are truly that hateful, then we are truly fucked.

              Also, just go Google up "Bots Manipulate Public Opinion " and read.

              As far as the rest of your diatribe, is intellectually dishonest, mischaracterizes my position, and I disagree with it.

              I stand by what I’ve said.

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          10 months ago

          Idc

          I guess that’s what it really just comes down to, if you care for others, or think only for yourself.

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            why would you care for people who exploit the baseline care given from others but themselves do not care for others? you’re enabling and encouraging this breakdown of societal care by accommodating the loud-mouth arrogant bullies like the “hurry up” woman to the degree that you seemingly elevate them above the average person.

            “being kind” does not mean “being a doormat”, you seem to have conflated those things.