• ANGRY_MAPLE@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing. I would argue otherwise.

    I think that the people who were victims of it over the past centuries probably already thought it was a bad thing, along with anyone who cared about them. It’s not a new revelation. People have been trying to spread awareness about this happening for multiple generations.

    It’s an extremely low moral bar, to be honest. Some actions are indefensible and inexcusable. Anyone who had even half of a heart would have still cared about this happening over a hundred years ago.

    It’s caring about your mother/sister/daughter/friend/teacher/nurse/mechanic/niece/neighbour/cousin/welder/artist/etc. If you care at all about any of them, this should have always been important to you. It’s wanting people to not suffer.

    It would be like saying that people only recently started caring when someone murders innocent people. It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.

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      10 months ago

      The wording kind of implies that it’s only recently that people started seeing rape as a bad thing

      I mean, it’s true. In most countries of the world, marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.

      It’s always been terrible, and the offenders have always been terrible.

      The comment above doesn’t imply otherwise though. You may argue that most people in the past had shit ethical opinions without agreeing with those opinions.

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        10 months ago

        marital rape was both tolerated and legal 100 years ago.

        In the US, this argument only started to fall apart in the early 1990s when a big case came into the public light. People argued that legally a husband can’t rape and has marital rights. As I recall, the idiot was still convicted and this was a big shift in public perception.

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        10 months ago

        People might have not collectively cared, specifically and especially the people who likely didn’t see half of the population as human.

        The victims have always cared, was my initial main point. To claim otherwise would be to also deny the sentience of those people.

        Idk if you can see it on your instance/browser, but I didn’t vote on the comment.

        Added: I agree that people in general have had some level of shitty ethics though, in one way or another. Especially historically. I didn’t see it was you asking either, sorry about that lol.

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          10 months ago

          Why do you think it was downvoted then? You also didn’t answer their question lol.

          I don’t know, I asked because I don’t see any good reason worth downvoting. Thanks for replying tho.

          • ANGRY_MAPLE@sh.itjust.works
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            10 months ago

            Did you see the edit? It might have taken a bit to update the change. I noticed and added a bit at the end after removing that part lol

            Thank you for replying to