It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk He’s telling us what he will do to his political enemies if he’s president again. Is anyone listening?
I feel pretty safe in saying that we can now stop giving him the benefit of that particular doubt. His use—twice; once on social media, and then repeated in a speech—of the word “vermin” to describe his political enemies cannot be an accident. That’s an unusual word choice. It’s not a smear that one just grabs out of the air. And it appears in history chiefly in one context, and one context only.
Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk
So, the situation remains unchanged.
I remember pointing out that trump was using Nazi rhetoric during his ‘16 campaign.
The number of people that argued with me about how it was an exaggeration. Makes me want to scream.
Anyone who says he wasn’t is willfully ignorant so they don’t have to admit they support facism, or unironically ignorant and falling victim to what facism does best: take advantage of the uneducated
I feel we are experiencing Cassandra Syndrome.
The dude bragged about how he had mein keimf on his bedstand.
Him and Desantis both studied hitler and wannabe him.
yeah.
though it was probably the picture version for the hitler youth kids.
I am not fan of Desantis but never heard he said he was into “Mein Kampf”. Where did you learn if this?
Not of the book. But I heard he studied history in college, and basically he is basically using the same playbook pre-WW2 nazi germany was doing.
Slightly. Trump seems to be ramping up the rhetoric. He’s getting more and more comfortable emulating Nazi speech. And each step along the way, the media normalizes it by reporting “oh, that wacky Trump said something crazy again!”
At this rate, he’ll be posting in September 2024 about a final solution to rid this country of his political enemies and all Jews and the NYT will report “Trump Puts Forward Plan To Unite Washington.”
I’m sure Trump’s spokesman will walk back the Nazi talk…
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Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung said of anyone who compares Trump to Hitler or Mussolini that, “their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House”
So they’re just doubling down on the Nazi then.
Do not call me a Nazi. The next person to call me a Nazi is the first one I’m throwing in the camp.
The dude looks like a fucking thumb. No wonder he’s a nazi.
Yeah they are Nazis.
Anyone still unclear to the concept? This is his play book, his manual. Nothing else. If you don’t recognize it, shame on you and your history teacher.
In 1923, Hitler and his supporters attempted a coup in Bavaria. This seminal event was later called the Beer Hall Putsch. Upon its failure, Hitler escaped, only to be subsequently arrested and put on trial. The trial proved to be a blessing in disguise for Hitler, as it garnered him national fame. Hitler was sentenced to five years in prison, but he would only serve eight months. During this time, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, which became the vade mecum of National Socialism. Once released, Hitler switched tactics, opting to instead seize power through legal and democratic means.
So… fuck…
Yep. There was something about people who don’t know history are bound to repeat it’s mistakes.
And then some people read history and think repeating its mistakes is a great idea.
Orange boy can’t even sign his name in the right place.
He could record videos, though
He’s too old for all that, but good news everybody! Trump isn’t the real threat anyhow – he’s the carnival barker. The real threat is the organised group of fascists who have been working hard on all the plans and slogans he claims as his. People like Steven Miller, Bannon, Stone, and some members of Congress.
They’re younger, smarter, and more determined than trump to replace democracy with their authoritarian utopia. They’ll find another front man when trump is gone.
Yeas, but thank goodness Trump is a senior citizen. He’s really only doing this to keep his fatass out of prison.
He is not a mastermind, and I still believe his health will fail sooner than we expect.
I mean, the only book he’s known to possess is one with Hitler’s speeches.
Is this an established fact? If so, that’s quite interesting.
He also said upon reelection that he’d oust government officials not loyal to him and immediately begin deporting mass waves of people, including those living in the US legally.
Trump doesn’t care about government employees defending the constitution, he wants government employees loyal to HIM. If Trump had enough people like this last time the United States democracy would be over.
Stop voting for Republicans. They are un-American and don’t believe in our democracy.
Glad we are not on reddit so I can say this here:
We need to bring guillotines back to use on people like Trump
As someone who came here from Ukraine in 76, that concerns me
Is anyone listening?
Yes, his base is, and they love it.
That’s exactly it, and this is also why the media CONSTANTLY “discovering” that Trump is a Nazi is just signal boosting his campaign content.
Maybe in another eight years they will move on from “dae notice that Trump is a racist fascist Nazi?” And instead start saying “don’t vote for racist fascist Nazis, do this instead.”
Is that eagle… shooting a machine gun?
That’s an Atchisson AA-12 which is a fully automatic 12 gauge shotgun. Which may technically qualify as a machine gun depending on interpretations of the law.
Everyone has a right to an AA-12 with a 100 shell drum mag filled with explosive rounds, as seen in the greatest Oscar snub of all time when Terry Crews didn’t win best actor for killing everyone with one in The Expendables.
But do we all have the right to this weapon borne by an eagle? I don’t see any historical laws saying that you can’t have trained eagles with deadly weapons flying overhead everyone at all times!
If we outlaw training eagles to provide air support what’s even the point of America?
I don’t think I would be able to lift that.
Not only that, but is Trump holding a Barrett M90? Imagine the hilarity that would ensue if that fucking potato actually shouldered and fired one of those.
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His entire existence is a Nazi dog whistle.
Sure, but it’s worth noting that it’s now just a regular whistle.
At this point it’s a fucking vuvuzela.
Almost kinda worse, if that’s possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
The man is completely empty of any significant value systems. He just does what works for him. Currently he’s obviously calculating that being a nazi works.
I saw the Guardian report that “Biden campaign accuses Trump of parroting Hitler”
How about, Trump parrots Hitler? Why this Biden campaign accuses Trump of.
the media are a bunch of pussies hedging their bets with the audience, also willing to skew anything to cause controversy as long as it doesn’t come back to bite them. Sensationalism sells.
Likely liability… Saying “X” puts you in the way of more lawsuits than “so-and-so says ‘X’”
You’re possibly correct, though my understanding is journalism gets enough freedom for it to be OK, but that potentially has to be resolved in court which takes money. They’d rather not be totally honest than lose a little profit.
That title is totally honest though? They are reporting the fact that the Biden campaign said X. Deciding whether or not that is an accurate portrayal of Trump is a matter for opinion and analysis section not news.
Also the Guardian is a UK publication, defamation is slightly easier to win in the UK, thus more likely to be costly for the defendant. Truth is not an absolute defense like it is in the US.
As described in The Newsroom, a great show I personally love, the media is “biased toward fairness.”
This is most likely due to the need to be as profitable as possible, although now that business model is changing in the Trump/Fox/MSNBC-Hyper-Partisan era and we are seeing more catered viewpoints. But the “bias toward fairness” is what has helped shift the Overton window so far to the right. They ignore basic factual truth to appear “fair,” taking this floating viewpoint that insists on looking at everything through the amorphous, yet binary, political lens.
The example used in the show was about flat earthers (this was, actually, a time when that was an absolutely absurd example): “if half of the Republican caucus walked onto the house floor tomorrow and said ‘the earth is flat,’ The Times would lead with ‘Democrats and Republicans can’t agree on shape of earth.’”
It’s one of the many, many, many, many issues with modern society that stack up to give us the overarching problem…of everything going on today. I dunno, maybe this is just me, but any time I think about any nuanced, hyper-specific issue like this, with such far-reaching consequences, our problems seem insurmountable. Because this issue is connected to larger issues and much smaller issues and THE largest issue and the consequences are devastating…it just seems like modern society has become so stacked and complicated that you can’t unravel one problem without digging up and figuring out a million others. And we’re running out of time. But even saying THAT is a multifaceted conversation…it’s all so exhausting.
People have been talking about the unindicted traitor since J6 and the media pretends Nazis hushing up means no one is talking about it. Anyone still pretending he’s a legitimate candidate for office has their head up their ass.
He was elected once and I hate to say it but there’s still a chance he’ll be elected again. He isn’t legitimate in the sense that he has no sense of decorum or history or human decency but he could be elected.
He’s constitutionally ineligible for office.
You and I agree he’s ineligible, but if 2016-2020 has taught us anything, it’s that our laws and rules mean nothing if the courts don’t enforce them.
What happens if Trump appointed judges decide that Trump still can be on the ballot? What if they decide that insurrection isn’t disqualifying because reasons?
Trump could get into office again and shred any bits of the Constitution that he hasn’t already ripped up. And this time, he might decide that he’s not leaving office and judges he appoints could agree.
Then we move on to other forms of redress
I understand that there is a huge argument for that. However, I wasn’t under the impression that this is proven. It would potentially go to the Supreme Court. I don’t have faith in the court as its currently configured.
Congress could make this vote on their own motion. It’s only going to the courts because people can’t coordinate a way of forcing a vote through the legislature.
Oh, I couldn’t have any less faith in a Republican led house. They can barely elect a speaker or pass a budget. Anything more meaningful than that will certainly be off the table. Especially since they are all cowards and refused to call a spade a spade with Trump.
The most beautiful thing, in my opinion, about 14a3 is that in times of crisis when we are likely to be divided, the vote is designed to fail. It’s a bottom line, 2/3 majority in both houses to requalify.
Rules don’t apply to him because Democrats are only interested in following rules that keep themselves ineffective.
They worry to much about “escalation” and the Republicans saying “don’t you do that, or we’ll do it too!”. They were going to do it anyway as soon as their old tricks didn’t work.
Like that’s gonna stop him
“I am the Constitution”- The Heritage Foundation
Source? For science.
See the other comments up and down this thread
Ummm, no. Where did you come up with that one?
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Being “right” doesn’t equal reality. He hasn’t been blocked from running anywhere in the U.S., yet. Certainly won’t be blocked nationally.
What’s right and what happens are two different things. He is officially ineligible. That doesn’t mean he won’t physically be elected.
He is NOT officially ineligible. No one has blocked his candidacy.
And bank robbery isn’t illegal unless you’re prosecuted, right?
The previous person indicated that there is a clause in the constitution that would make him ineligible, not that anything had been done about it.
14th amendment section 3
And? No one has official barred him from running. Just because we hate him, doesn’t mean he’s blocked from running.
Until Congress votes to redeem his candidacy he’s ineligible. It takes the type of reading comprehension that public schools avoid teaching up to.
This is definitely not true. No one has barred his candidacy.
Excuse me we already have a Vermin candidacy. Trump’s gonna have to get something else.
Man-thing me sad-depressed that this not good vermin running for man-president.
The Democrats need to go off script and run a fresh face with thick skin and a mouth that can pick Trump apart.
Andrew Santino for president!
Nah, they just need to make him Biden’s anger translator ala Luther
I think you might be describing John Fetterman.
Also reminiscent of the Rwandan genocide, when the slaughtered Hutu were called cockroaches.
Every time I think it can’t get worse… This fucker is a pro. I need to stop underestimating him. Speed-run to fascism in less than a decade.
The dominoes have been getting set up since the 70s. Just because it looks fast once they start getting knocked over doesn’t mean there hasn’t been extensive prep in getting there.
I mean we do have the internet now so it makes sense things are at least a smidgen faster Maybe if you account for that variable the Nazis had approximately the same timeline?
I opened this thread for Vermin Supreme comments.
I was not disappointed.
Thank you Lemmy, thank you.
That’s an interesting use of the word “now”.
Used to, still does too.
