Not FBI, but if you think it’s wrong to be mindful about seditious comments on the internet in this day and age, I’d say you have a tenuous connection to reality.
While I agree, unfortunately whoever is in charge gets to decide what’s “seditious” means. Right now we have the freedom (though many of us are probably on lists, which will be passed on to the next admin) to speak up against these fascists.
But if/when they take power? That’s when there could be a reckoning. I, personally, am not a fan of violent rhetoric, but I wouldn’t be surprised if my outspoken anti-fascist ideals would put me in the crosshairs when the fascist GOP truly gains control.
Personally? If it comes to Europe pre-WW2 levels of outright, blatant fascism spreading uncontrollably in the US, I would rather die standing up for what I believe in, than to use my white, middle class privilege and knowledge of how Evangelicals think to hide amongst them.
I’m pretty sure the FBI isn’t so stupid that they can’t tell whether or not someone is talking about armed uprising until someone else asks them for clarification.
Or is this one of those “you can’t arrest me if you tell me you’re a cop” urban legends?
If the bad guys repeat the parts of history that made it bad, does the solution to that original problem become viable again? You’re citing the same precedent, I have no issues with it.
I understand that, which is the point I am trying to make. He’s got a number of very serious criminal cases going against him, and so far has managed to weasle his way out of any serious consequence for all the shit he’s pulled.
I’m personally hoping for imprisonment, financially debilitating fines, and prohibitions from founding or serving in any kind of corporate or nonprofit organization*, and for that set of punishments to happen to every single scumbag who had the complete disregard for morality and good sense that was required to ever do a favor for Donald Trump. Do that sort of thing to the right 200 or so people in this country and maybe our politics can stop being so fucked up all the time.
*As an officer/broad member/decision-maker, if they end up with a job as a receptionist or custodian at the local YMCA that’s fine
I’m not defending the guy or saying I agree, but there is already precedent of a Presidential Candidate running from prison: Socialist candidate Eugene Debs.
Yeah, there’s nothing keeping him from running from prison, and that’s probably the way it should be, otherwise you could just jail your political opponents when you don’t want them to win elections. But this guy has participated in an organized coup attempt essentially with his fake electors crap, and trying to get military personnel to step in. If you recall, he also started replacing top level military personnel after he lost, with the presumed intent of keeping himself in office. This goes way beyond the, I’m just your political opponent, and I should be able to run from prison if I want to.
Hey man, I agree. I’m just talking about precedent. Given how things went during Trump’s tenure, I see nothing suggesting anything will be different for Trump despite the nature of his crimes.
You can screech all about what he did, but if we ultimately aren’t going to stop him from running, then what’s the point of the circus?
Watch and learn how this is theatre and you have no actual say.
Maybe we should consider other ways to regain control for the benefit of the 99.99%
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Only if we get torches and pitchforks as well.
Your comment seems to imply that you think an armed uprising is the solution you’re suggesting. Is that the case?
Storm the Capitol! No… wait
Nice try FBI
Edit: it’s literally a meme
Not FBI, but if you think it’s wrong to be mindful about seditious comments on the internet in this day and age, I’d say you have a tenuous connection to reality.
Opposing traitor trump is the furthest thing from seditious there is. It’s the only thing any true patriot can do.
While I agree, unfortunately whoever is in charge gets to decide what’s “seditious” means. Right now we have the freedom (though many of us are probably on lists, which will be passed on to the next admin) to speak up against these fascists.
But if/when they take power? That’s when there could be a reckoning. I, personally, am not a fan of violent rhetoric, but I wouldn’t be surprised if my outspoken anti-fascist ideals would put me in the crosshairs when the fascist GOP truly gains control.
Personally? If it comes to Europe pre-WW2 levels of outright, blatant fascism spreading uncontrollably in the US, I would rather die standing up for what I believe in, than to use my white, middle class privilege and knowledge of how Evangelicals think to hide amongst them.
I’m pretty sure the FBI isn’t so stupid that they can’t tell whether or not someone is talking about armed uprising until someone else asks them for clarification.
Or is this one of those “you can’t arrest me if you tell me you’re a cop” urban legends?
Guilotines are a good method
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If the bad guys repeat the parts of history that made it bad, does the solution to that original problem become viable again? You’re citing the same precedent, I have no issues with it.
but of course.
if they’re going to keep forgetting and doing the same shit, the people need to keep remembering and doing the same shit.
Because if he loses, he’s going to face the consequences of his crimes. That has to matter. The rule of law has to matter.
I understand that, which is the point I am trying to make. He’s got a number of very serious criminal cases going against him, and so far has managed to weasle his way out of any serious consequence for all the shit he’s pulled.
I’m personally hoping for imprisonment, financially debilitating fines, and prohibitions from founding or serving in any kind of corporate or nonprofit organization*, and for that set of punishments to happen to every single scumbag who had the complete disregard for morality and good sense that was required to ever do a favor for Donald Trump. Do that sort of thing to the right 200 or so people in this country and maybe our politics can stop being so fucked up all the time.
*As an officer/broad member/decision-maker, if they end up with a job as a receptionist or custodian at the local YMCA that’s fine
I’m not defending the guy or saying I agree, but there is already precedent of a Presidential Candidate running from prison: Socialist candidate Eugene Debs.
Yeah, there’s nothing keeping him from running from prison, and that’s probably the way it should be, otherwise you could just jail your political opponents when you don’t want them to win elections. But this guy has participated in an organized coup attempt essentially with his fake electors crap, and trying to get military personnel to step in. If you recall, he also started replacing top level military personnel after he lost, with the presumed intent of keeping himself in office. This goes way beyond the, I’m just your political opponent, and I should be able to run from prison if I want to.
Hey man, I agree. I’m just talking about precedent. Given how things went during Trump’s tenure, I see nothing suggesting anything will be different for Trump despite the nature of his crimes.