After Alabama became the first state to execute a death row prisoner via nitrogen gas in January, the state is set to perform the second-ever execution on Thursday.

Alabama is set to perform the second-ever nitrogen gas execution in the United States on Thursday.

Alan Eugene Miller, 59, was sentenced to death for the 1999 murders of his then-coworkers Lee Holdbrooks and Christoper Scott Yancy, and his former supervisor Terry Lee Jarvis.

Miller was to be executed in September 2022 via lethal injection, but it was called off after officials had trouble inserting an intravenous line to administer the fatal drugs and were concerned they would not be able to do so before the death warrant expired.

  • yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
    417·
    2 months ago

    “Murder” is an illegal killing. This is not an illegal killing. It’s also not an immoral killing, but that’s a separate conversation.

    • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      51·
      2 months ago

      It’s also not an immoral killing, but that’s a separate conversation.

      Actually, let’s have that conversation.

      I have two questions for you:

      • Do you believe it can ever be moral to take an innocent person’s life?
      • Do you believe that our judicial system has never wrongly convicted an innocent person and sentenced them to death?

      If the answer to those questions is no, then I do not understand how you could ever say the death penalty can be moral.

      If you answered yes to the first, you’re a monster. If you answered yes to the second, you’re hopelessly naive.

      • yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
        23·
        2 months ago
        • Do you believe it can ever be moral to take an innocent person’s life?

        Absolutely not. But you’ll agree this guy is not innocent.

        • Do you believe that our judicial system has never wrongly convicted an innocent person and sentenced them to death?

        That line of reasoning would be paralyzing. There’s a high chance that you’ll kill an innocent person while driving, but you’re still driving. I suppose the alternative is even worse.

        • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          21·
          2 months ago

          Absolutely not. But you’ll agree this guy is not innocent. At all.

          Perhaps. But the question of the death penalty is larger than just this guy.

          That line of reasoning would be paralyzing. There’s a reasonably high chance that you’ll kill an innocent person while driving, but you’re still driving. I suppose the alternative is even worse.

          And there, I suppose, is the difference between you and me. You are willing to murder people, some portion of whom you know are not murderers, because somehow you’ve decided that their deaths are worth it in this instance. I am not. I find the murder of even one innocent immoral. And frankly, in a democratic system where the state acts on behalf of the people, we all have that innocent blood on our hands. We are all murderers; we are made that way by the state. Should we all, then, die?

          You’re also comparing accidents to deliberate acts in order to justify their murder. Those two things should not be conflated. No execution is an accident.

          • yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
            13·
            2 months ago
            1. Killing innocent people is wrong.
            2. The death penalty has a chance of killing innocent people.
            3. Therefore, the death penalty is wrong.

            Versus:

            1. Killing innocent people is wrong.
            2. Driving a car has a chance of killing innocent people.
            3. Therefore, driving a car is wrong.

            Clearly, this argument is not sound. You’ll need to come up with another.

            For a more nuanced discussion on this topic I’d recommend a modern Ethics textbook, such as Shafer-Landau’s Living Ethics, which breaks down arguments over the death penalty to their syllogistic form.

            EDIT: more examples.

            1. Killing innocent people is wrong.
            2. Practicing medicine has a well known chance of killing innocent people.
            3. Therefore, practicing medicine is wrong.

            Etcetera

            • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              41·
              2 months ago

              When I set out to drive, or paraglide, I do not set out to kill a person.

              If I were to execute the death penalty, I would set out to kill a person.

              Intent matters.

              • yeahiknow3@lemmings.world
                11·
                2 months ago

                Here, let me help you.

                1. Intending to kill a person is always wrong.
                2. The death penalty involves intending to kill a person.
                3. Therefore, the death penalty is always wrong.

                This argument is valid. It is not sound.

                I’m actually against the death penalty. But I am also against forming strongly held beliefs for no reason and occasionally stumbling on the correct conclusion by accident.