Yeah, you have a point there.

I think the point is that this isn’t an advance poll to see how people might vote, where people might end up changing their minds. It’s instead people who have just voted saying who they actually voted for.

I would still classify what you’re describing as proportional self defence, since punching a fascist is always self defence haha 😄

I’d say that lethal force is rational when used as proportional self-defence. Or, in the words of Malcolm Reynolds, “if someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back.”

I think the Gandalf quote, however, is specifically referring to death as a punishment for “just” being a thoroughly contemptible, evil and heinous person.

“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many - yours not least.”

- Gandalf, The Fellowship of the Ring

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You’ve taken it?

I was confused by the perspective lol, didn’t realise it was a bowl on a counter

I thought that was her shit, and the title was saying, basically, “looks like she needs some medicine”. Like, yeah, i agree lmao

Not together - married but separated.

A healthy cocktail of all three perhaps

You’re not actually responding to my point, you’re just reacting

No, what socialists actually want is for this paradigm of worker ownership to be writ large across society.

And the reason for that is - it is no measure of comfort to be told “mice are well within their rights to enter the lion’s den”.

Mutual aid, free association, common ownership of the means of production, coalescing into a society where people contribute out of genuine gratitude to be part of it

I straight up don’t believe you.

When the joke is “women be gold diggin’”, the joke was ruined from the start

Apparently so!

Uh, your ideas about where you’d find socialism are a bit backwards

You’re conflating the terms “socialism” and “democratic socialism”.

An actually ideologically socialist government wouldn’t have made them feel the need to flee, and would have done better picking up the pieces