From my understanding the OP said it was normal water too.

Imagine being so against people using certain programs on their computer that you straight up deny them software updates.

My only major complaint is their free-tier is a bit lacking compared to what Skiff had (or I guess has, but not for much longer.) I think their platform is great, and definitely worth paying for, but given I’m a broke college student that’s not much of an option. Also their support for third party clients (or lack thereof) isn’t great, though I don’t use those as much. Otherwise I like it quite a bit!

I personally like Podverse.