Yes, I understand you, in my country it has not yet taken hold in a drastic way, but you see how politicians with ideas, social democrats at most, are treated in the press like ultra-intractable radical leftists.

Thanks for the info, I wasn’t paying attention, but because British politics doesn’t affect me of course, I’m sorry for what it does.

What you say is better than what the Tories did, but with such a large majority they could seize the opportunity and renationalise some privatized services, improve and adequately finance those that the right was letting die, change the tax system so that the upper classes help to finance the state. You already know, things that should be normal on the left until the “third way”

Like op, I’m not British and I wonder if this would be possible or do we forget that something like this is going to happen, I don’t know, if you’re from there, tell us.

And this is the reason why the democratic party does not respond to the interests of the working class. The words of a super rich person have more influence than thousands or millions of people saying the same thing in surveys. This time those voices are aligned, but if next time they are not, the voice of the super rich will be the one they hear instead of yours.

In a small town in Spain, in the '80s only my father worked in a less qualified position than mine, at my age he already had an apartment, two children and a month’s vacation on a nearby beach. My wife and I work in more qualified positions, We live in rent with an only daughter and I am lucky when I can pay for a week somewhere quiet

It’s true, I shouldn’t have said we have, I should have said we had. Since the 80s, everything has been dismantled, making everything worse, both right and left. Comparing ourselves to other parts of the world we are not so bad, but comparing my living conditions with those of my parents it is shameful.

Create a state that cared for and protected the majority, things like insured retirement, paid vacations, universal health insurance, In Europe we have all that, in the USA it was thought that they were rich enough not to need it and it may have been like that for decades, but it seems that not anymore.

If the system takes care of you, you are not going to sign up to destroy it, If the system doesn’t give you anything, you won’t care if it is destroyed or you will even sign up to do it.

Yes, I suppose you are right, the most basic thing has not failed but certain fundamental and important institutions seem to be in it, in any case one can have a horrible and dystopian but functional totalitarian state, without being failed, I don’t know if I explain my point correctly .

this is also for @[email protected], I don’t know how to answer both of you at the same time, but what I say is valid for both of us.

Yes well, I was trying to be a little sarcastic with the headline, but looking at people’s votes I think I have failed miserably.

Oh, I thought you were an American worried about how you look outside and I was trying to calm you down. I respect your perspective of course, but it seems to me that a failed state is a bit exaggerated for this, Somalia or Yemen are still a little worse than the USA in the comparison. Authoritarian, close to breaking up as a nation, things like that I think are closer to reality, that is my vision also from the outside, I could be wrong and you may be closer to reality.

No, from Europe I tell you, we see you as less democratic than you used to and with many problems that can escalate and screw you up (we are not celebrating here either), but you are still far from being a failed state, there are still police more or less functional, you can still call the fire department if your house catches fire, there is still a clear institutional hierarchy, more authoritarian but clear.

Yes, the speed at which you are flushing democracy down the toilet, when, I don’t know maybe 20 years ago, you were the example to follow in many aspects, it is surprising for everyone.

Like now? The president has always been able to assassinate you, officially, the difference is that before he would have gone to jail and now he won’t.

Yeah, I guess you could be right.

Yes, surely, but there is an underlying problem for this entire system, there is no economically viable alternative to the use of data for advertising sales, without that all those websites cease to be profitable.I don’t think this is good for anyone.

facebook and instagram? I don’t know about the rest of Europe, but in Spain right now practically all newspapers/digital media have copied that model and you either accept cookies or pay

I hope that if that happens it will be the kick in the ass we need to start setting up our own racket.

P.S. I don’t like military gear, but yours are better than the alternative

I am a European who has just woken up and started watching the news. I think it is a good time to look for alternatives to NATO

Sin problema, tampoco parece que vaya a dar mucho trabajo así si quieres hazme mod y hago lo que pueda

I would like to be able to help, but I don’t see myself capable of moderating a community in English, that is if whoever accepts the position can count on my help, support and solidarity from now on.

Yes, but I mean leaving the planetary system not only with isolated elements, but with parts of our civilization.