• ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    55
    ·
    6 months ago

    Isreals crimes against the palestinians needs to be stopped. No question. And yet ‘from the river to the see’ calls for the total destruction of isreal as a state, with all of its civillians, which isn’t exactly better. Hamas commited similar atrocities against the israeli on oct 7. But an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

        • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          And it should stop on both. Why the fuck are we even mentioning “both sides” as if it fucking justifies anything?

        • alekwithak@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          6 months ago

          Both sides are sticking electric spikes up each other’s asses? Please come back to reality, every released hostage of Hamas has said they were treated well and every hostage Israel has released has said they were brutalized.

            • alekwithak@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              Yep! The article you’re commenting under, for example. Do you have any sources claiming the opposite?

              • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                5 months ago

                It says nothing about how those hostages are being treated. I am not those reddit assholes. But I am not going to pretend either side is the good guy here.

                • alekwithak@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  5 months ago

                  There are no sides, it’s a superpower state vs people. You ALWAYS side with the people. The state doesn’t need your help, they have everything already.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      6 months ago

      Destruction of the state does not equal destruction of humans. The entire statement is, “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.” You have to seriously work on that to turn it into a genocidal intent. And then it begs the question, why would their freedom require such a drastic act? Which is why Israel doesn’t like to talk about the second part.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          It’s the reverse (and not any better).

          When you think about it, settler colonialists and native people are just two sides of the same coin.

          from the river to the sea / Palestine will be free

          and

          Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty

          Carry the exact same connotations and historical weight.

    • istanbullu@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      6 months ago

      Israel is an invader and occupier of Palestinian land. Israel’s existence is a crime against humanity.

    • masquenox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      calls for the total destruction of isreal as a state

      And? Where’s the problem, exactly?