• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      Likely despite US intelligence warning about imminent terror attacks in Russia earlier this month.

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      Maria Zacharova (Kremlin) seems to think the most important thing right now is that the whole world condemns the attack, which I find to be a kind of weird priority since the thing just happened and we have no fucking clue what is going on.

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        You can still condemn it even if you don’t know exactly who’s behind it.

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          Absolutely! It wasn’t my intention to insinuate that you cannot. My point is that she was very quick to come out and demand it be done. Of course terror attacks should be condemned. All I’m saying is that the Kremlin has some weird priorities when there’s an ongoing attack. Almost like they’re trying to control the discussion and steer it towards something else.

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          Yeah not an extemely useful propaganda plot device at all then. You’re not with the terrorists, are you? You better stand up and clap your hands and stomp your feet in sympathy.

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        Maria Zacharova (Kremlin) seems to think the most important thing right now is that the whole world condemns the attack

        nah I don’t condemn anything. Either it was some pro-ukranian group (fair, bring the war to russia!), or more likely, some covert op from the fsb so that this russian cunt in charge can order a new drafting…

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          It is never fair to murder civilians. I don’t blame Ukraine if there is terrorism and insurgency due to the occupation of eastern Ukraine, that’s firmly Putin’s fault. But that also doesn’t make it ok.

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            And suddenly here you are standing together in sympathetic unity with The Kremlins. It’s hard making people see propaganda when they have become so desensitized to it

            Let’s hope Putin will find some way to finally stop the forces of evil defiling his land after this.

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          fair, bring the war to russia

          ah yes, “bringing war to russia” now means shooting innocents, because responding to terrorism with even more terrorism works so well

          gotta fuckin love reddit

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            gotta fuckin love reddit

            this is lemmy.

            ah yes, “bringing war to russia” now means shooting innocents, because responding to terrorism with even more terrorism works so well

            Yes innocents die in war, thats what happens. It’s cruel, it’s not fair but this can happen if you attack other countries, although I don’t believe that this is caused by ukranians…

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              Yes innocents die in war, thats what happens. It’s cruel, it’s not fair but this can happen if you attack other countries

              I’d love to see you say that if someone gunned down your compatriots. Or better yet, your family. Surely your condescending Realpolitik tone wouldn’t falter, right?

              although I don’t believe that this is caused by ukranians…

              Neither do I. ISIS has taken responsibility for this.

              this is lemmy.

              Quaks like a duck.

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                I’d love to see you say that if someone gunned down your compatriots. Or better yet, your family. Surely your condescending Realpolitik tone wouldn’t falter, right?

                Like parts of my family we lost contact with in Ukraine because of Russia? So pardon me if I don’t have that much sympathy for Russia.

                Fuck! Because of your username I now have a strong desire for some nice halva, didn’t eat some in ages. Damn you!

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                  Like parts of my family we lost contact with in Ukraine because of Russia?

                  So have I, I don’t exactly have the government in high regards either. Quite the opposite. But the people that were at the concert hall were not the ones because of whom I lost my family. I see no point in seeking vengeance through shooting random civilians.

                  The only violent vengeance that would help is Putin being hung on a gas station railing. But that’s not happening any time soon, he’s probably gonna end up same as Stalin if anything.

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                    The only violent vengeance that would help is Putin being hung on a gas station railing.

                    I highly doubt that. Russia is mostly rotten to the core, there are too many for way too long in line with Putin. After him there would be another one and most of the people will continue to support these atrocities.

                    Also the Band was Piknik, quite the supportive band of the russian government so I assume most of their fans are also part of this group. Still civilians though…