• AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Nail on the head. There are some who call themselves Democrats who would rather have 1000 Trumps for President than let someone who would shake up the status quo get their hands on the levers of power.

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      8 months ago

      Literally no Democrats are like that.

      News media, I’ll grant you. Not Democrats though.

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        8 months ago

        Why not because they publicly say the right phrases to make you think we’re all on the same side and they have your back? Were you not around to witness what happened in 2016, or what nearly happened again in 2020, or what could happen now in 2024?

        Have you never questioned why, out of a population of 330 million, they keep hand picking individuals to back that fully represent the status quo, individuals who are so unlikable that they have already lost once and then only defeated him in a narrow victory once? Candidates who can barely defeat a known conman and reality TV star?

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          8 months ago

          “They” are not growing new leaders because that’s not their job. The DNC is national (that’s the “N”). It’s your job on the local level to find good candidates and help them run for office the first time.

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            8 months ago

            This is such a naive take. It’s not us who decide to back candidate X over Y, give them all the media coverage, or millions of dollars in party donations. Biden and Clinton weren’t picked by us to enter into the race for president.

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              8 months ago

              Yes, it’s your job to donate to and support good candidates at the local level. That’s how democracy works. You have to participate.

              Who is running in your local city council or mayoral race? Who is your state representative? If you don’t have a preferred candidate, find one. You can literally swing those elections with a few thousand dollars and votes.

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                8 months ago

                Who is talking about local races for city council or mayor?

                This is about national politics and national elections. My city councilor isn’t going to end support for a genocide, give us universal healthcare, or improve economic conditions for the majority of the nation.

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                  8 months ago

                  They are, though. Local politics matters a hell of a lot more in your day to day life.

                  Local politicians determine whether a protest is allowed or is shut down.

                  Local politicians determine whether to create supportive institutions for Healthcare, or whether to shut them down.

                  Local politicians decide housing, taxes, how much the cops harass you, how many grocery stores are in your area, and how difficult it is to vote.

                  If you have no opinion on your local races, you’re either SO uninformed you should recuse yourself from the democratic process, or you don’t actually live in the US.

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                    8 months ago

                    Shhh. Don’t tell people they have to do anything besides complaining and occasionally protesting.

                    Protesting is fun. Voting for and supporting a candidate who loses an election is not.

        • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          Holy fucking conspiracy Batman

          Why not because they publicly say the right phrases

          “Ignore everything they actually say. Trust me, I know what they really mean”.

          Fuck you, crawl back to Joe Rogan.

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            8 months ago

            You can tell their true beliefs by how they vote and the legislation they actually pass. It’s no conspiracy theory that it’s little more than lip service or virtue signaling when they give public statements about ‘X’ but never back it with actual legislation or if they do it’s legislation that is doomed from the start because they never had any intention of actually putting up a fight to move it forward. It all plays well in media headlines though and that’s all that matters to them.