Men earn more than women in eight out of the ten most common jobs in Dutch small and medium-sized enterprises. The wage gap ranges from 3.7 percent for administrative employees to 14.3 percent for warehouse workers. There was no change in the average wage gap in these ten positions in 2023 compared to 2022. On average, men earn 6 percent more, the MKB Kennisplatform reported in the run-up to International Women’s Day tomorrow.
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Tbh with how yall are denying the gender pay gap and acting like you carry the world I’m kinda rethinking my support of men in any way. Like bro women get drafted too, and they’re called trans women. The issues you’re talking about don’t even only affect men, so it really just ends up being ineffectual whining.
When I presented male and worked at McDs, I had the highest wages of anybody but the manager. After I transitioned, they wouldn’t hire me. That’s an infinitely large pay gap.
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I cannot stress this point enough: You have a lot of denazifying to do. Stop acting like you’re immune and start putting in the work.
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Scratch a liberal I guess
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I can tell you’ve never actually worked a blue collar job.
Both factories I’ve worked in are evenly split 50/50 between men and women, but men are the ones that get to be supervisors while women stay in production. The main difference is that 90% of these women are migrants so they don’t shy away from hard work the way USians do.
It’s all socially constructed, there’s no biological imperative, and it’s extremely obvious if you go to any US factory.
Or go to any farm that uses migrant labor. Same story there, the fields are filled with both men and women. Or slaughterhouses or meat packing plants or many of the other dirty jobs where US-born workers are a small majority or in the minority. Women born in the US are socially conditioned to avoid these jobs and to instead pursue service jobs and other female-coded labor like hospitality and education and nursing, but women who immigrate from Africa or the Caribbean or Latin America don’t have that choice.
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Literally read Capital Volume 1 and note how women are put into degrading and dangerous conditions.
You don’t get to “pick” jobs in a factory setting, you are assigned work and you either do it or get disciplined.
Women are operating heavy machinery, lifting and organizing steel parts, operating power tools like grinders and air guns, working with welders and powder coat ovens, and everything else that men do on the production line and at production stations. The difference is women have to stay at the bottom and don’t get to be supervisors or managers or shift leaders. At best they can become a team leader, someone who barely makes more than anyone else and has to do basically every job that needs doing when there’s staff shortage.
“Biology” doesn’t cause men to like risky jobs, they’re socially conditioned to undervalue their own health and comfort for money. You don’t see rich men taking risky jobs! That’s for all of us on the bottom of society, because we have few choices. Blaming biology for what is very obviously a product of capitalism is absurd. After reading Capital Volume 1, read The Origin of Family, Private Property, and the State.
Also? Sex work, the oldest profession, carries a huge risk of fatal injury and death. It’s uncelebrated and frowned upon too.
Yet women dominate the work in that field. Why?
The reality is that the patriarchy also oppresses most men who arent super rich white men (and they still have weird oppressive restrictions placed on them) and in the following case:
Liberal feminism and cultural feminism make for shitty reactionary feminism that still enforces rape culture. You can’t replace class analysis that includes analysis of gendered oppression with “men are oppressors and women are oppressed”
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You know women were only cleared for all positions in the military as of 1994, right? Who do you think pushed for that?