• SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      I took an app development course in college. Everything was android and I tested on my own device, except one project had to be on apple. I managed to snag an ancient iPhone off a friend to test, but no, turns out you need a dev account to even be able to load your own code on your phone. Fuck apple forever.

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        6 months ago

        Dev accounts are free. It’s only when you want to post stuff to the store that you start paying.

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          6 months ago

          Did this change? It was about a decade ago. I could develop and test on an emulated device, but testing on hardware was 100% locked behind a $100 paywall.

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          6 months ago

          You mean when you want to make it available to download in the only way Apple makes possible? It’s not like you can just send the apk to someone to run on their iPhone, if you want to share the app with others on an iPhone, you have to use the Apple App Store, you have to pay them $100 + the cost of an Apple computer. Just to share your FOSS app with your friends.

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            6 months ago

            If dev accounts are free your friends can get their own accounts and load the app.

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                  6 months ago

                  You’re not even good at whataboutism, lol. Changing one setting is not even comparable to Apple’s perfection. The message that you need to allow it first even takes you straight to the setting.

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      6 months ago

      How is the $100 a obstacle to any legitimate developer? The only one it hurts is those who would otherwise flood the app store with crap submitted from throw away developer accounts.

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        6 months ago

        Who said anything about legitimacy? I said small, synonyms hobby, FOSS. It is an obstacle to be forced to pay money to Apple for the ‘privelidge’ of being able to install it on their devices. And they are Apple’s devices, you do not own anything you buy from Apple.

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          I said small, synonyms hobby, FOSS. It is an obstacle to be forced to pay money to Apple for the ‘privelidge’ of being able to install it on their devices.

          It’s $100, basically a symbolic amount.

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            6 months ago

            Ah fantastic, can you give me $100? It’s basically nothing, a symbolic amount.

            Signed, a disabled and unable to work guy who enjoys IT and programing

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              6 months ago

              Signed, a disabled and unable to work guy who enjoys IT and programing

              You don’t need to pay to develop an app, you only need to pay to put it in the store.

              So develop your app. If it’s any good, pay the $100, sell it in the store and it’ll pay for itself. It may even make you a little profit. If it’s not good enough for that, why does it need to be in the store?

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                6 months ago

                Some capabilities actually need a paid developer account even if you don’t plan to put the app on the store.

                The Capability library shows only the capabilities available to the target type and your program membership. If you are not a member of the Apple Developer Program, the capabilities you can add are limited.

                https://help.apple.com/xcode/mac/current/#/dev88ff319e7

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        6 months ago

        Say you you’re maintaining a FOSS app on your own time. How interested would you be to pay Apple $100 annually for the privilege of giving their users free stuff?

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          Say you you’re maintaining a FOSS app on your own time. How interested would you be to pay Apple $100 annually for the privilege of giving their users free stuff?

          Depends on the reason you’re maintaining that app to begin with. If it’s a hobby, then $100/year is a pretty cheap hobby.

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            6 months ago

            As an open source developer, you’re right IMO.

            It’s a shame you’re being downvoted based on feels.