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        Erosion of ethics on the use of force rather.

        For just a few decades there was an illusion of “the West” having some success in making those ethics the baseline.

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          What ethic since 1920 its 100% colonialism Israël is younger as a country than my grand father wtf. You dont immigrate thousand of people and steal territory by ethic.

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            Repatriation is the term. Jews do, after all, originate from Judea and Samaria. I hope you are not going to argue with that.

            Modern state of Israel is younger, but there were Jewish states there in antique times destroyed by force. I hope you are not going to argue with that either.

            These things said, that’s not quite the approach Israeli elites themselves take - they are exactly colonialist and proud of that, so probably that state should be cut down to something like “initial Zionist settlements plus Eilat with land connecting them and some farmland”, that’d still be quite viable as a state due to sea and technological development.

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              No with this logic anyone that had ancester at some point somewhere can ‘repatriate’ there but that’s not how it works in international law.

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                That’s exactly how it works in right, and “international law” you can stick into some overused orifice of your body.

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                  8 months ago

                  Yeah let’s see how everyone love Israël and respect them. I’m sure all their child will love to live with this just look at Germany

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                    8 months ago

                    This is now about Jews, not Israel. Jews do have the right to repatriate.

                    Just like I have the right to repatriate to Western Armenia, and my grandchildren if there’ll be any will have that right, and their grandchildren.