• Wogi@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I have a strict “no genocide” policy. Candidates that promote, endorse, allow, or sit idly by and let others do genocide are gonna be a no go from me.

    It’s not going to change unless we make demands.

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      7 months ago

      I have a strict “no genocide” policy.

      That’s not one of the options though. You get to pick which genocide. You either get restrained genocide, or full genocide with a side of dismantling American democracy.

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          7 months ago

          If I have kids, I genuinely hope they ask me that. I hope they get angry at me, because the concept of a tacit genocide supporter being the lesser evil is unthinkable. I want them to live in a world where there aren’t moral conundrums like that, and the closest they come to them is in gritty video games and academic hypotheticals.

          I’m willing to support the lesser evil and have blood on my hands so they can live in a better world and condemn me for it. I will be thrilled if that comes to pass.

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          7 months ago

          You mean critical thinking?
          As soon as it’s assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots.

          But not before.

          Balancing on the tightrope with hell yawning below, is hardly the time to consider changing your shoelaces.

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            7 months ago

            As soon as it’s assured Trump loses, and the subsequent cou de tat is quelled, you can all camp the White House front lawn and shake the fences, throw red paint, call old Biden an accessory to murder. Fill your boots.

            None of that will cause any structural change, which is why it is permitted

            How can we reshape the United States such that genocide is never permitted again?

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              7 months ago

              That sounds bad. But you have to remember that they’re brown and Muslim. Which means it’s OK.

              Fish don’t have any feelings, which makes it ok to eat them. Same logic applies here.

              Remember to vote blue no matter who. And always remember that the United States is a good country filled with moral people

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          7 months ago

          Happily, and I’ll teach them how to do the same, when necessary. Unlike your parents apparently.

          Sometimes there’s no good choice, only bad and worse. That’s how life works and I’m sad your parents never prepared you for that.

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            7 months ago

            Sometimes there’s no good choice

            Why?

            And what conclusions can be drawn about who does and does not hold power in the United States?

            And what should be done to the United States to correct this?

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          7 months ago

          Jill Stein, yes, Cornell West? I wouldn’t bet on it. He’s 2 for 50 so far… I guess if you live in Alaska or Oregon, you’re in luck.

          He’s going to wish he stayed the Green candidate.

          Either way, they’ll pull a tiny segment of the vote and won’t win a single state, just like always.

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              7 months ago

              Hey, there’s a first time for anything…

              2020:
              Libertarian - 1.18%
              Green - 0.26% (Howie Hawkins)

              2016:
              Libertarian - 3.28%
              Green - 1.07% (Jill Stein)

              2012:
              Libertarian - 0.99%
              Green - 0.36% (Jill Stein)

              2008:
              Ralph Nader - 0.56%
              Libertarian - 0.40%
              Constitution - 0.15%
              Green - 0.12% (Cynthia McKinney)

              2004:
              Ralph Nader - 0.38%
              Libertarian - 0.32%
              Constitution - 0.12%
              Green - 0.10% (David Cobb)

              2000:
              Green - 2.74% (Ralph Nader)
              Reform - 0.43% (Pat Buchanen)
              Libertarian - 0.36%
              Constitution - 0.09%
              Natural Law - 0.08%

              In order to hit 5%, she would have to do twice as well as Nader did in 2000.

              That is never going to happen.

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          7 months ago

          Stein thinks the US forced Russia into invading Ukraine and doesn’t support US aid or involvement for Ukrainians. Hardly unexpected, since she’s dined with Russian oligarchs at anniversary dinners for RT.

          As far as I’m concerned, she’s Genocide Jill. I don’t recall her criticizing RT when someone on there suggested drowning Ukrainian children.

          What are West’s positions on Ukraine?

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            7 months ago

            >she’s dined with Russian oligarchs at anniversary dinners for RT.

            this contains both misinformation and innuendo. she went to one dinner, and she paid her own way. RT was one of the few outlets that would give her air time during her 2012 presidential bid, which is more of a commentary on the corporate media and political parties than on anything she’s ever done.

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            7 months ago

            >What are West’s positions on Ukraine

            i’ve heard him say similar things to jill, but also that the shooting needs to stop.

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            7 months ago

            >Stein thinks the US forced Russia into invading Ukraine

            she never said that. she has said it was an illegal invasion, though.