• SuckMyWang@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Centuries of violence? Try prehistory. Humans have always used violence if someone takes more than they contribute.

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      6 months ago

      Humans have always used violence if someone takes more than they contribute.

      In the grand scheme of things, using violence against those who take more than they contribute (i.e., the upper class) is one of the things we do least often.

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        6 months ago

        And yet give two kids a cookie and a knife and watch how carefully they divide that cookie. Fairness is a very old instinct.

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          6 months ago

          Humans are for the most part inherently fair and cooperative.

          But sociopaths aren’t, so they think no one else will do anything without the threat of starving to death.

          And the sociopaths have been making the rules since the mid 80s.

          Untold damage done to humanity and civilization just so a handful of old white men can be ridiculously, unspendably rich.

          And we are taught to idealize them.

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              6 months ago

              We had a brief progressive period where citizens were protected and supported, I was referring specifically to the reagan-thatcher era.

              Honestly the entire world was going much more progressive then, even the middle east.

              Neoliberalism and oil greed started the current fire we are roasting in. And it started with reagan

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      6 months ago

      Humans have used violence for lots of stuff including taking or taking from takers or because the other tribe looked at em funny or whatever else. I wished we could be free of our worst instincts.

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      6 months ago

      I’d say violence is much more often used by people to take more than they contribute than the converse. Violence against the takers is so rare they write about it in history books.