President Biden attended a fundraiser in San Francisco late Wednesday where protesters showed up calling for an end to US aid for Israel and a cease-fire in its ongoing war in Gaza.
Most of these people do not know about the horrors going on in places like Yemen or Myanmar. And if you tell them about them, they don’t suddenly feel a need to rush out and start pressuring others for a cease fire.
To me, this means that most don’t personally care about what’s going on in Palestine, they’ve just been told what to feel by social media which has filtered all Israel/Palestine information through a megaphone. These people flitter between one cause after another, never forming their own opinions or taking the time to view things objectively. They just wait for what the internet tells them they should feel and act on it.
Yeah, that’s an incredibly shitty and nihilistic take. People only have so much bandwidth, so while yes, there does seem to be public responses to what’s based on the news, people are at least having the right reactions to it. Would you rather no one say anything? What would that say about our society and culture as a whole if they were okay with blatant genocide when it was broadcast in front of him?
And here’s the thing, we don’t really have any ties to Yemen, or Myanmar, but we DO have direct ties to Israel. In fact, if it weren’t for the US involvement and the alliance with Israel, they never would have been as advanced and powerful as they are now. The US President has a direct influence to what is going on in Gaza, and if he wished it, he could have immediately put a stop to it. But he didn’t. He is putting pressure on them now at least to start minimizing the civilian casualties, but it never would have happened if it wasn’t for people protesting like this. These people are some of THE ONLY ONES that are out there and making a direct change, and your minimalizing their efforts and success.
I find it incredibly ironic how you try to paint these people as being ignorant, when you yourself have shown just how ignorant and unabashedly jaded you are at people’s attempts to help.
Israel never would have gotten there without US assistance. The US wanted a strong foothold to the middle east and thus enabled Israel by giving them almost $4 billion per year. They are literally a core element of the US’s entire Middle East policy.
We had to work with someone in the area, better to do it with those who scored higher at understanding reality and rational thought.
Our other options were to trust those who worship a pedophile that married a 6 year old and raped her when she was 9. They will also behead you if you draw said pedophile with a crayon.
Not exactly the type of people you want to be allied with.
Judaism has some weird shit as well but I don’t have to take my shoes off at the airport because of them nor do they get all beheady when you wanna make some cartoons about Yahweh so they’re already streets ahead in my rankings.
Oh really? Hasn’t worked on the Houthis and they’ve been actively striking them for months.
Aside from that nuclear powers don’t have direct conflicts for obvious reasons. If the US even thought about it Israel would remind them of the Samson protocol.
The Houthis are a rebel group used to hiding in caves while bombs fall. Apples and Oranges.
And anyone who is using nukes to cover for genocidal actions needs to lose those nukes ASAP. We don’t let Iran have nukes because we consider them unstable. If Israel is really willing to bomb the entire middle east just to keep killing civilians then they are demonstrably less stable.
That is an extremely shitty and inhumane take. We have exactly the same ties to Yemen and Myanmar as we do to Israel and Gaza as we are all members of the human race. Protesters on another continent aren’t making any direct or indirect change. That is being made by the aid workers who are willing to go overseas, not by keyboard warriors like yourself.
Glad that you think the Yemenis and Burmese are not human. I have no idea how people like you look in a mirror let alone survive daily life. BTW, where exactly did I say anyone was worthless? I did say protests here are not helping the situation overseas but that is a far cry from calling anybody worthless. Why are you projecting? Do you feel worthless?
Most of these people do not know about the horrors going on in places like Yemen or Myanmar. And if you tell them about them, they don’t suddenly feel a need to rush out and start pressuring others for a cease fire.
Countries around the world erupted in protests against Israel and in celebration of the attacks on Oct 7th before Israel even responded.
The answer is quite simple, they hate Jews. The reason those other issues don’t elicit a reaponse boils down to no Jews no news
Here’s my take that no one asked for.
Most of these people do not know about the horrors going on in places like Yemen or Myanmar. And if you tell them about them, they don’t suddenly feel a need to rush out and start pressuring others for a cease fire.
To me, this means that most don’t personally care about what’s going on in Palestine, they’ve just been told what to feel by social media which has filtered all Israel/Palestine information through a megaphone. These people flitter between one cause after another, never forming their own opinions or taking the time to view things objectively. They just wait for what the internet tells them they should feel and act on it.
Yeah, that’s an incredibly shitty and nihilistic take. People only have so much bandwidth, so while yes, there does seem to be public responses to what’s based on the news, people are at least having the right reactions to it. Would you rather no one say anything? What would that say about our society and culture as a whole if they were okay with blatant genocide when it was broadcast in front of him?
And here’s the thing, we don’t really have any ties to Yemen, or Myanmar, but we DO have direct ties to Israel. In fact, if it weren’t for the US involvement and the alliance with Israel, they never would have been as advanced and powerful as they are now. The US President has a direct influence to what is going on in Gaza, and if he wished it, he could have immediately put a stop to it. But he didn’t. He is putting pressure on them now at least to start minimizing the civilian casualties, but it never would have happened if it wasn’t for people protesting like this. These people are some of THE ONLY ONES that are out there and making a direct change, and your minimalizing their efforts and success.
I find it incredibly ironic how you try to paint these people as being ignorant, when you yourself have shown just how ignorant and unabashedly jaded you are at people’s attempts to help.
Edit: Previous post got posted twice. Sorry.
Israel enjoys some American cash but don’t think for a second it has power over them.
At the end of the day Israel is ranked 29th in GDP and it has 400 nukes. No outsiders can tell them what to do, not even the Americans.
Israel never would have gotten there without US assistance. The US wanted a strong foothold to the middle east and thus enabled Israel by giving them almost $4 billion per year. They are literally a core element of the US’s entire Middle East policy.
We had to work with someone in the area, better to do it with those who scored higher at understanding reality and rational thought.
Our other options were to trust those who worship a pedophile that married a 6 year old and raped her when she was 9. They will also behead you if you draw said pedophile with a crayon.
Not exactly the type of people you want to be allied with.
Judaism has some weird shit as well but I don’t have to take my shoes off at the airport because of them nor do they get all beheady when you wanna make some cartoons about Yahweh so they’re already streets ahead in my rankings.
Then there’s no reason that Netanyahu can’t carry on with his genocide without our help.
If the US put a carrier group in the med and said either you stop or we stop you, Israel would stop.
Oh really? Hasn’t worked on the Houthis and they’ve been actively striking them for months.
Aside from that nuclear powers don’t have direct conflicts for obvious reasons. If the US even thought about it Israel would remind them of the Samson protocol.
The Houthis are a rebel group used to hiding in caves while bombs fall. Apples and Oranges.
And anyone who is using nukes to cover for genocidal actions needs to lose those nukes ASAP. We don’t let Iran have nukes because we consider them unstable. If Israel is really willing to bomb the entire middle east just to keep killing civilians then they are demonstrably less stable.
You honestly think the IDF couldn’t do better? That is massive cope lol.
Well shit. Go take them then. Be the first one to ever do it and get your self in the history books.
Somebody is going to have to do it at some point. And if they’re unstable enough to commit genocide then now is as good a time as any.
That is an extremely shitty and inhumane take. We have exactly the same ties to Yemen and Myanmar as we do to Israel and Gaza as we are all members of the human race. Protesters on another continent aren’t making any direct or indirect change. That is being made by the aid workers who are willing to go overseas, not by keyboard warriors like yourself.
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Glad that you think the Yemenis and Burmese are not human. I have no idea how people like you look in a mirror let alone survive daily life. BTW, where exactly did I say anyone was worthless? I did say protests here are not helping the situation overseas but that is a far cry from calling anybody worthless. Why are you projecting? Do you feel worthless?
>Glad that you think the Yemenis and Burmese are not human
this is as bad faith as you could be
Are you 12?
I was excited. I thought I might learn something new about the conflict in Myanmar. Then this came out…
And now I pity you.
that’s a lot of assumptions about what these people are thinking
Lmao the left has been trying to get the government to stop helping the Saudis in Yemen for a decade. And Myanmar was literally headline news.
Do you know about what’s going on in Sudan right now?
Ethiopia?
Somalia?
Sri Lanka?
Tao Tao?
The Sahel?
Haiti?
Mozambique?
Democratic Republic of Congo?
Mexico?
Pakistan?
Chad?
If we have to tackle every conflict every time we want to denounce one actor in one conflict; we’re going to be here a long time.
Countries around the world erupted in protests against Israel and in celebration of the attacks on Oct 7th before Israel even responded.
The answer is quite simple, they hate Jews. The reason those other issues don’t elicit a reaponse boils down to no Jews no news
BTW, be careful bringing up actual genocides like Myanmar because last time I did, these guys banned me for being racist and promoting genocide,
You sure you weren’t being racist and promoting israel’s Genocide?
Perfect place to leave this. I really think all of us here should read this.