To be clear: I prefer to pay for things instead of having to see ads but 13€ / month!? For a meta product that has inherently user-hostile design patterns even without ads?

Who does this appeal to?

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      8 months ago

      I’d pay a reasonable price. I’d even use it for not personalised ads.

      Instead I uninstalled all platforms from meta and will only be using it on my PC periodically and in a private tab.

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    8 months ago

    Now we know how much they’re making with tracking and ads per user.

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      8 months ago

      They are still going to be tracking you. That isn’t going away.

      They just won’t use the tracking for the explicit reason of creating ads for you. But that’s only because you are paying for no ads.

      I guarantee the data is logged for all other purposes, and that the data is logged for future ad usage if you ever unsubscribe.

      Secondly this doesn’t necessarily equate the profit from your specific ads. This is the result of a legal battle within the EU. That’s the only reason it exists. The price is determined as ‘high enough to not get into more legal trouble’.

      https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/10/30/ad-free-subscription-versions-of-facebook-and-instagram-to-start-in-the-eu#:~:text=The US tech giant is,before showing ads to users.

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        8 months ago

        Meta already demonstrably does this. I deleted my real Facebook in like 2016. Around 2019-2020, I created a new burner account to browse Marketplace with nearly all fake info expect my name, phone, and email. And lo and behold all of my friend suggestions are people I know and mostly were on the old account. The most charitable I can imagine is that those suggestion had me in their contacts which they agree to share with Facebook (which is problematic af imo) but it is extremely likely they just retain all of data especially since many of the people I was suggested have never had my current number/email.

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            8 months ago

            From me? Of course not. Unfortunately, I do live in society and do have to share my contact info with others, and I’m guessing the vast majority of people just spam the “okay” button as Facebook asks for contact access, mic access, camera access, access to your colon, etc.

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      8 months ago

      I doubt it. But I believe that they have figured out exactly what ammount people will be less willing to pay .

      Besides that, they won’t stop tracking and storing your data. They simply won’t use it show targeted ads.

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    8 months ago

    FB the same. Fine, I don’t want to pay for your dumb content (even when you successfully trained my brain to enjoy that content) so show me ads…

    But then they “forced” me to accept tracking cookies which makes me angry… Still I’m not ready to leave, but I’m a big step nearer than before.

    Also, isn’t that against EU laws?

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      8 months ago

      Also, isn’t that against EU laws?

      Very likely, but the final verdict is still out on that one, as far as I know. There are several other services and sites that offer similar opt-out of tracking and ads for money schemes (albeit not as ludicrously expensive).

      I believe that’s both against the spirit and any reasonable interpretation of the law, but I don’t think it has been fully tested in court.

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        8 months ago

        But they are not even offering to stop tracking me. They only offer add free experience and force targeted ads. I’d be ok with regular ads but not the targeted ads

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      8 months ago

      It is actually a hard paywall. They won’t let you use the app unless you make a choice between the two. I chose to uninstall

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    8 months ago

    You’ll still see ads through. If not targeted and even not served by meta, a lot of the content shared by users on the platform is actually ads.

    But I agree, the price is ridiculous