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    10 months ago

    That’s still a bad reason to increase the speed at which we’re killing ourselves.

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      10 months ago

      It’s a great reason until there’s an alternative. As long as voters look to gas prices for their votes, taking action that raises them is politically toxic.

      Meanwhile leftists are literally criticizing the Biden administration for high gas prices’ impact on the working class.

      You want to change it? Let’s change it. Starting with activists.

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        Meanwhile leftists are literally criticizing the Biden administration for high gas prices’ impact on the working class.

        Which leftists are these? I’ve yet to run into them.

        You want to change it? Let’s change it. Starting with activists.

        I still haven’t been able to decipher what kinds of activists you’re alluding to.

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          Progressive liberals I guess? The Hill, Mar. ’22: Gas prices lead to tensions within Democratic Party

          Progressives are concerned that high gas prices are worsening inequalities, creating tension between activists who want Democrats to do more to condemn big oil and those trying to navigate Russia’s deadly invasion of Ukraine.

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          that’s not an answer. sure go ahead and kill oil production, make gas prices high and give trump the presidency again. see how that works out for the environment.

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            I mean. It’s the only answer. You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”. It’s too late and it was too late 10 years ago. This isn’t just a US problem. This is global societal breakdown in the next 10 - 20 years.

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              You cant see the dominos start to fall like they have this year and decide “let’s pump more oil and maybe some Conservatives will vote for me over trump”.

              of course you can. the demand for oil/gas will be there regardless, people aren’t all going to stop driving ICE cars just because Biden cut all US oil production. it’s political suicide, not just for Biden but for US environmental policy in general.

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              Economic collapse is not an answer to anything. Let alone “the only answer”.

              All it does is highlight how big of a threat environmentalists are to society

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                the economy is already collapsing. for us that is.

                also oil only means collapse because they made it mandatory.

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                Economic collapse may be the best answer. Endless production and consumption of goods may make people have material improvements to their lives but it is… excessive.

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                  What good is a dick sucking machine when humanity has driven 70% of species to extinction? Fuck humanity.

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                    When ecological collapse kills off 70+% of the human population, you may be really wanting that dick sucking machine…

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                  Yeah the slowest environmentalists are the biggest threats to society too

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                    Yeah man, it’s the environmentalists you gotta look out for, what with their wanting harmony among nature. I bet you’re fucking terrified of antifa too lmao.

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        Cmon guys you’re both pretty, lets accept that were doomed and vote Big Asteroid 2024

        Really though vote now for the chance to vote again, not that it fucking matters because we’re 40 years late to taking any corrective action, but I’d like to vote again

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        So business as usual. We were doomed 20 years ago, when we could have had a fighting chance.

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          not exactly business as usual. Biden is doing more than most presidents have. Not enough, but also not nothing. But the fact is not enough will ever be done until public opinion drastically changes.

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            Biden signed off on a record number of new oil projects, it’s not business as usual, it’s business is accelerating as usual. Environment be dammed

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              there’s more to the topic than oil which is a necessary evil for the time being. or would you rather be beholden to OPEC and the Middle East?

              but sure, let’s go ahead and ignore everything else.