Anyone calling this situation a genocide is ignorant.
West Bank is arguably a slow moving Genocide. Gaza was left alone for the most part until militants / terrorists attacked from Gaza.
This here is just your standard military operation. Yeah, it’s bloody and deadly. That’s not what a genocide is. Even a massive bombing campaign (ex: Tokyo firebombs or Hiroshima) are not genocides.
A genocide is an attack on the people in an attempt to make a culture extinct. Trail of Tears, Holocaust, etc. Etc. Are genocides. Intent matters, meaning matters.
Ie: Death to Israel is a literal genocidal chant. No one is calling for death to Palestine. This entire situation is so backwards is laughable.
Then why is Israel saying they intend to keep Gaza?
What else do you call cutting off people’s power, food, and water?
What else do you call telling people that an area is a safe zone and then bombing it anyway?
What do you call mass indiscriminate bombings?
But don’t worry, they will slow walk it enough that people like you can deny it until they are already gone and then people like you will tell us “Well, that’s all in the past, we should just forgive them now and move on.”
Israel controls food, water and electricity because Gaza is so poor they don’t have their own food, water or electricity. When a poor pseudo-State attacks literally the country providing them food / water and electricity, we call that ‘Gaza/Hamas being a dumbass’. Israel is under no circumstance should be forced into giving aid to the people who declared war upon them.
Maybe next time, before killing thousands of Israel’s, the leaders of Gaza can try I dunno, establishing a food/fuel/electricity deal with Egypt first?
Oh that’s right, Hamas doesn’t give a shit about the people so they’re actually stealing the food and fuel for themselves. Last time Israel was building pipes for water for Gaza, Hamas literally dug up the pipes and turned them into rockets. Israel literally cannot give these people any aid as long as Hamas is in power, because all aid becomes perverted into weapons by Hamas. So what the fuck is Israel supposed to do about that?
Mass indiscriminate bombings is mass indiscriminate bombings. Ya know, like Tokyo Firebombs or what we did in Vietnam. There’s nothing genocidal about that, it’s ‘just’ war.
Israel has genocidal tendencies in the West Bank so yes, we need to keep our eyes out. But what you see here isn’t genocide. It’s just war, the war that Hamas wanted and still wants to happen.
Genocide is when you try to kill off a culture or entire group of people. All these bombs won’t do that actually. Tokyo recovered for example and I promise you far more people and civilians died in the Tokyo Firebombing campaign.
Is Israel brutal? Yes. But this isn’t new news at all. But calling this a genocide is just counterproductive and only demonstrates your sides ignorance to world matters.
You can hide behind whatever words you want to try to make you feel better.
I may not be able to stop it, but to my dying day I will do my best to make sure never to support israel .
I will encourage everyone I know to do the same.
I will make sure that future generations see that israel is no longer deserving of our help, only our disdain for their killing of innocents.
For their mockery of innocent children dying in pain, pouring out water just to taunt people who are without, and calling them animals, and if the “nation” of israel falls, well I guess I’ll have a coke.
Now THAT is closer to genocidal thoughts and tendencies. Thanks for providing the example.
Good job me. It didn’t even take me more than a couple of posts to get you to start calling for Israeli genocide nonironically.
The irony here is strong, but it is also what I expected of you. Well, I thought it take at least a few more posts, not this quickly.
No one wants the Gaza civilians to suffer. The enemy here is Hamas, who absolutely do not represent Gaza in general. With luck, we can resurrect the PLO or something and get them good leaders (or at least better leaders than Hamas) who will actually look out for the Gaza civilians.
But for now, Hamas needs to go. Israel is certainly a brutal people so we can’t expect Israel to come up with a proper peace plan. But the dismantling of Hamas is a step forward we all should be looking forward to.
So I should just ignore the Death to Israel and “From the river to the Sea” means what, exactly?
The issue at hand here is that Hamas absolutely wishes to genocide Israel. It’s literally the explicit purpose of Hamas.
Israel feeling a bit touchy about that is natural. We need to hold Israel back from actually genociding the people here, but let’s not actually pretend that anything aside from Israel’s military is physically protecting them from this problem.
So it’s full irony to claim Israel is genocide Gaza when it’s instead Hamas who is trying to genocide Israel.
Because we are sick of him aiding the commission of genocide?
Anyone calling this situation a genocide is ignorant.
West Bank is arguably a slow moving Genocide. Gaza was left alone for the most part until militants / terrorists attacked from Gaza.
This here is just your standard military operation. Yeah, it’s bloody and deadly. That’s not what a genocide is. Even a massive bombing campaign (ex: Tokyo firebombs or Hiroshima) are not genocides.
A genocide is an attack on the people in an attempt to make a culture extinct. Trail of Tears, Holocaust, etc. Etc. Are genocides. Intent matters, meaning matters.
Ie: Death to Israel is a literal genocidal chant. No one is calling for death to Palestine. This entire situation is so backwards is laughable.
Then why is Israel saying they intend to keep Gaza?
What else do you call cutting off people’s power, food, and water?
What else do you call telling people that an area is a safe zone and then bombing it anyway?
What do you call mass indiscriminate bombings?
But don’t worry, they will slow walk it enough that people like you can deny it until they are already gone and then people like you will tell us “Well, that’s all in the past, we should just forgive them now and move on.”
Conquest is not genocide. Conquest is conquest.
Israel controls food, water and electricity because Gaza is so poor they don’t have their own food, water or electricity. When a poor pseudo-State attacks literally the country providing them food / water and electricity, we call that ‘Gaza/Hamas being a dumbass’. Israel is under no circumstance should be forced into giving aid to the people who declared war upon them.
Maybe next time, before killing thousands of Israel’s, the leaders of Gaza can try I dunno, establishing a food/fuel/electricity deal with Egypt first?
Oh that’s right, Hamas doesn’t give a shit about the people so they’re actually stealing the food and fuel for themselves. Last time Israel was building pipes for water for Gaza, Hamas literally dug up the pipes and turned them into rockets. Israel literally cannot give these people any aid as long as Hamas is in power, because all aid becomes perverted into weapons by Hamas. So what the fuck is Israel supposed to do about that?
Israel has genocidal tendencies in the West Bank so yes, we need to keep our eyes out. But what you see here isn’t genocide. It’s just war, the war that Hamas wanted and still wants to happen.
Genocide is when you try to kill off a culture or entire group of people. All these bombs won’t do that actually. Tokyo recovered for example and I promise you far more people and civilians died in the Tokyo Firebombing campaign.
Is Israel brutal? Yes. But this isn’t new news at all. But calling this a genocide is just counterproductive and only demonstrates your sides ignorance to world matters.
You can hide behind whatever words you want to try to make you feel better.
I may not be able to stop it, but to my dying day I will do my best to make sure never to support israel .
I will encourage everyone I know to do the same.
I will make sure that future generations see that israel is no longer deserving of our help, only our disdain for their killing of innocents.
For their mockery of innocent children dying in pain, pouring out water just to taunt people who are without, and calling them animals, and if the “nation” of israel falls, well I guess I’ll have a coke.
Now THAT is closer to genocidal thoughts and tendencies. Thanks for providing the example.
Good job me. It didn’t even take me more than a couple of posts to get you to start calling for Israeli genocide nonironically.
The irony here is strong, but it is also what I expected of you. Well, I thought it take at least a few more posts, not this quickly.
No one wants the Gaza civilians to suffer. The enemy here is Hamas, who absolutely do not represent Gaza in general. With luck, we can resurrect the PLO or something and get them good leaders (or at least better leaders than Hamas) who will actually look out for the Gaza civilians.
But for now, Hamas needs to go. Israel is certainly a brutal people so we can’t expect Israel to come up with a proper peace plan. But the dismantling of Hamas is a step forward we all should be looking forward to.
they aren’t calling for a genocide. you’re pearl-clutching
So I should just ignore the Death to Israel and “From the river to the Sea” means what, exactly?
The issue at hand here is that Hamas absolutely wishes to genocide Israel. It’s literally the explicit purpose of Hamas.
Israel feeling a bit touchy about that is natural. We need to hold Israel back from actually genociding the people here, but let’s not actually pretend that anything aside from Israel’s military is physically protecting them from this problem.
So it’s full irony to claim Israel is genocide Gaza when it’s instead Hamas who is trying to genocide Israel.
you can oppose the existence of a state without opposing the existence of the people ruled by that state.
Hamas wasn’t Bibi’s enemy when he was directly funding them with trucks full of cash through Qatar.