cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20957893
By MEE staff. Published date: 2 October 2024 11:34 BST
Honestly, considering the whole “land invasion of Lebanon” thing, I’d even say it was gentle.
Its just as legal as israel’s attacks. Not that I think those are legal.
They’re not at all comparable. Iran’s missile’s killed one person, a Palestinian man but were not targeting civilians.
This is in retaliation for Israel’s full year of genocide, terrorism and attacks on its neighbours.
Israel uses bunker busters, and the most cruel and gruesome bombs dropped directly on refugee camps, hospitals, schools, humanitarian aid vans, journalist’s homes.
You’re making an argument for legitimacy not legality. All of the bombing that all of the parties have been doing is illegal under a strict reading of international law in that war is generally not allowed unless approved by some UN resolution.
Yes.
So your saying that one is more legal than the other. Nonsense.
Legal? Probably not. But there has been little interest for Israels international allies to uphold legal principles when it comes to Israeli actions.
Rational? In order to assess that we would need to know, which information they had when they made the decision. Probably we’ll have historians analyze and discuss this in a few years.
Legitimate? From what we know the strikes were aimed and hit military targets, in particular air bases. Weakening Israels ability to bomb people relentlessly like the continue to do in Gaza and Lebanon will prevent many more civilians being killed in those air raids.
Ultimately the problem with every military escalation is that there is only three possible scenarios. Either one side, or the other side miscalculated their strength and resolve compared to their enemies, or both sides miscalculated. If everyone involved calculated correctly, they wouldn’t bother fighting.
Your assuming those involved are remotely rational. Once you get to the point where someone is willing to kill themselves to kill others it doesn’t really matter about anyone else’s strength and resolve.
“With God’s help, the blows of the uprising front will become stronger and more painful on the worn and rotting body of the Zionist regime,” he said.
Sounds very rational.
Ah yes, the mod of News that supports a genocidal apartheid government.
Just out of curiosity, do you think Rhodesia had a right to exist?
I definitely support the right of women to uncover their hair in public without getting murdered. Yet you seem to be spending an awful lot of energy defending the regime in Iran.
You went to a lot of trouble to answer a question no one asked.
I ask again, did Rhodesia have a right to exist?
I will remind you that the Europeans in Rhodesia also viewed their existence as an existential fight against barbarism.
Apartheid countries always do.
Very cool, and very legal.
maybe stop harbouring terrorists and you won’t get bombed by israel pre-emptive strikes??
i have no love for these terrorists but if they are all gathered at one place…i can deal with the diplomatic fallout later.
Iran should definitely stop harbouring terrorism. SO SHOULD FUCKING ISRAEL.
if you meant hamas,they are in gaza not israel unless these hamas terrorists managed to dig a hole to israel.
No I mean Israel. Israel is a sponsor of terrorism. In the Occupied Territories, the IDF and the Israeli state are continuously aiding and abetting radical settler militias in terrorizing the indigenous population, like their terrorist forefathers in the Irgun in the 1940s. In Gaza, the IDF itself is employing mass terror tactics against the population in service of ethnic cleansing. In Lebanon, the Mossad employed terror tactics with the mass detonation of battery-operated devices a couple of weeks ago. They are also currently employing mass terror tactics against the Lebanese population. They have also engaged in extra-judicial assassinations of political figures, another terror tactic. Israel is a major source of terror and destabilization in the Middle East. They should fucking stop.
gee,i wonder who attacked israel and called for the destruction of israel when they decided to proclaim independence??
who was it that decided to leave no stone unturned and ensure something something from the river to the sea?
can’t really blame the jewish people for being jittery after experiencing ww2.
wanna stablise middle east??? maybe stop calling for the genocide of the jewish state,her people and stop wanting to something something river to the sea.
I called for the end of Israeli state terror and you name that a call for genociding jews. That’s batshit insane and paranoid buddy. (By the way, you can’t “genocide a state”, that’s bullshit.)
And quit it with the zionist apologia. None of the “ooo who did that 70 years ago” matters, this is the post-Oslo world, when the PLO/PA has formally accepted Israel’s right to exist, all while Israel colonizes their lands in clear violation of their own signed agreements. Save it for evangelical fundamentalist bootlickers and impressionable young diaspora kids who haven’t been deprogrammed yet.
can’t read well can you?
everyone arbitrary decides how far back in time they get to use to justify their genocidal action,hamas,plo,pla and whichever islamic terrorists sees fit to use.
then we have the idiots chiming in to regurgitate the islamic propaganda and rant about zionists this and zionists that.
mofo,if you want middle east to be at peace,end hamas,their supporters and the rest of the Islamic terrorist organizations.
saudi arabia and israel were on the cusp of normalizing relations until Oct 7th where hamas terrorists decides to do what they do best and today we have people like you blaming israel for anything and everything. if israel is such a terror state,i am pretty sure it wouldn’t have survived until today and prosper unlike gaza with their terrorist tendencies and supporters.
Get off your nationalist garrison mentality and you’ll immediately see that I’m not blaming Israel for everything. I specifically started by saying that “Iran should definitely stop harbouring terrorism”. Literally my very first fucking sentence in this interaction. I have no hesitation to also label Hezbollah and Hamas as despicable terrorists as well. Fuck. Them.
What I am also doing is blaming Israel for what Israel does, something that you are having trouble computing because you’re trapped in an “us and them” knuckle-dragging mentality. Super conveniently for your terror narrative, the ONE accusation that you don’t even mention is my very FIRST one: that Israel is aiding and abetting terrorism by radical settler militias against the indigenous population of the West Bank. That alone is enough to 100% condemn Israel as a state sponsor of terror.
We have an actual A/B testing scenario here, a perfect natural experiment. The West Bank is what “Palestine without Hamas” looks like. And damningly for kahanist bootlickers “Palestine without Hamas” is an apartheid state/bantustan where the Israeli state apparatus has banalized the extreme degradation, oppression, murder and dehumanization of 2 million people.
Israel is the terrorist. They should go back to Germany and stop stealing Arab lands and this would all be over tomorrow.
Huh, I wonder why all the Jews left Germany in the first place…
last i checked arabs have been stealing lands from each other, including jewish lands.
if you wanna call jewish people thieves,maybe ensure the arabs aren’t thieves themselves.
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