• Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    15
    ·
    5 days ago

    No one that matters cares about what either of those 3 countries has to say. Ukraine will continue to be supported by the west and Russia will continue to suffer the consequences of their actions.

    • hackerwacker@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      5 days ago

      The world has changed grandpa. China is a superpower, Iran is a major regional power and Brazil has a lot of attractive people.

      • ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        Português
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        and Brazil has a lot of attractive people.

        I don’t know if I should be angry with this statement but thank you

      • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        5 days ago

        China has been a super power, Iran is an ass backwards country and if the only thing positive you can think to say about Brazil is they’ve got hot people then oof. Are they not the highest gdp country of south america?

    • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      5 days ago

      No one that matters cares about what either of those 3 countries has to say.

      Right, I’m sorry, silly me, I forgot that people outside of North America (and maybe Europe and a few more countries) don’t matter (I’m not sure if we can even call them people).

      Ukraine will continue to be supported by the west

      Yeah, this one is unfortunately true, the west will continue holding Ukrainians hostage in the mass prison that is Ukraine now and kidnapping them from the streets to fight their proxy war. I can only hope that this won’t last much longer :(

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 days ago

        Ukrainians don’t want to be subjugated by Russia though. Once they want to stop, it stops. Russia could’ve of course not started the whole thing and could stop it at any time without it being an existential threat to them.

          • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            I don’t know what that is, I was just saying that that’s why they’re still fighting the invader. Can’t stop fighting without Russia subjugating them.

            • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              4 days ago

              I don’t know what that is

              Well, you can listen (or rather read English subtitles) here about what it is: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXSB_WnYV0

              I was just saying that that’s why they’re still fighting the invader. Can’t

              Who are they? The people that are mass imprisoned, either trying to escape the country or afraid leaving their homes because they are afraid of being kidnapped by ТЦК?? They are not fucking fighting, they are being forced to to the front lines by Zelensky’s regime.

              • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                4 days ago

                It doesn’t show English as available subtitles for me. Would also be helpful to know who these guys are and whatnot.

                Who are they?

                Ukrainians in general.

                • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  4
                  ·
                  4 days ago

                  It doesn’t show English as available subtitles for me.

                  At least on the PC version you should be able to turn on auto-generated ones.

                  Would also be helpful to know who these guys are and whatnot.

                  Svitan, ex Colonel of AFU. He is extremely pro-Ukrainian in general, but even he admits that current government is anti-Ukrainian, and turned Pokrovsk into a concentration camp.

                  Ukrainians in general.

                  Ukrainians (at least those whom Zelensky’s regime considers good cannon fodder) are imprisoned in Ukraine, and are kidnapped from the streets by ТЦК (“recruitment officers”). They don’t want to fight.

                  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    4 days ago

                    It just shows me auto-generated Russian subtitles

                    Ukrainians (at least those whom Zelensky’s regime considers good cannon fodder) are imprisoned in Ukraine, and are kidnapped from the streets by ТЦК (“recruitment officers”). They don’t want to fight.

                    Seems like they still want to fight. It’d be over pretty quickly if they didn’t.

    • novibe@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      5 days ago

      Ukraine is the only one suffering the consequences of the “west’s” actions here my friend.

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        5 days ago

        Russia has lost a lot of lives in that war too. Not that there’s much sympathy there, they are the ones who attacked Ukraine, but still

      • futatorius@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        5 days ago

        Yeah, so it’s the west that’s been bombing, shooting and raping civilians in Ukraine? How could I have not noticed that before?

        And you are not my friend.

      • Fushuan [he/him]@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        5 days ago

        Because it was the west that decided to invade in 2014, it was the west that made Ukraine feel so fucking vulnerable for 8 years that they decided to turn into NATO, and then it was the west again who sent tanks into Kiev. Yeah.

        I’m not blind to not see that this benefits the US, but honestly, it looks like an opportunity for the west, not something they provoked. If Russia didn’t want the west to benefit so much from it maybe they shouldn’t have had invaded in 2014 because the people of a separate sovereign country revolted against the Russian puppet President.

    • futatorius@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 days ago

      A peace deal proposed by arms suppliers to one of the parties in the conflict just might be a bit one-sided, don’t you think?