• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Nah. I’m an antifascist. If something looks like a fascist and acts like a fascist it is fascist. It’s not my fault every communist regime is fascist. Differences in the economic model underneath is irrelevant to the minorities being slaughtered. Communism is intrinsically transphobic

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      11 months ago

      Can you tell me the page number in Das Kapital where you can find Marx’s discussion of transgender people? Or at least the chapter?

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        Can you explain why communist regimes have a clear tendency of “removing” minorities, such as ethnic and sexual minorities?

        Like I said, I didn’t make the rules, communism clearly has a requirement of genocide as perceived in reality, exactly like in national socialism - it’s ingrained in the ideology.

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          You didn’t show me where. If it’s intrinsic, as you claim, it should be in Das Kaptial since that is a foundational document. So where is it?

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            The ideology didn’t kill these people because the whitepaper said it didn’t

            Next thing you’re gonna say is that soviet union wasn’t communist even though they said it was. Fascists are always like this. Just take responsibility for once and admit that millions of minorities have been killed due to communism, and its inherent requirement for a homogeneous, authoritarian society which it always tries to go towards. Just once admit, then you can go back to playing a closet nazi.

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              Sorry, insulting me won’t change what intrinsic means.

              Intrinsic.

              Of or relating to the essential nature of a thing; inherent.

              If it is essential, where is it in Das Kapital?

              Also-

              Inhrent.

              Permanently existing in something; inseparably attached or connected; naturally pertaining to; innate; inalienable.

              If it is inseparably attached, where is it in Das Kapital?

              Or do you not mean ‘intrinsic’ and ‘inherent’ when you use those words?

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                If it is essential, where is it in Das Kapital?

                Even better it’s in reality.

                If it is inseparably attached, where is it in Das Kapital?

                In reality too. Go check it out sometime and read a historybook.

                Or do you not mean ‘intrinsic’ and ‘inherent’ when you use those words?

                Do you always go for semantics when you don’t know how to intellectually best someone? I mean, there is a reason why communism is strictly for the uneducated and violent.

                Instead of showing any sympathy for the countless of victims of communism, you instead purposefully drag the conversation into some weird mud fight on a book written by someone who never touched grass.

                It is of course clear why you choose to move the discourse away from the fact that communism in it’s core is just transphobia, but again, admit it and I’ll play with you.

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                  Once again, insulting me won’t change what words mean. I have not insulted you at all. If you can’t talk to people in a civil manner, perhaps Reddit would be better suited for you.

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              Were Nazis socialists because they said so? Is North Korea a democracy because they say so?

              No, the Soviet Union was fascist and not communist. We’re closer to communism here in Finland.

              Did you know that the Soviet Union “purged” leftists and communists?

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                We are nazis

                Yea I noticed the line between is quite thin indeed.

                We’re closer to communism here in Finland.

                Mitä vittua sä selität? Asutaan kyllä ihan sosiaalidemokraattisesa kapitalistisessa valtiossa jossa on yksityisomistusta. Lue uudelleen mun eka viesti ketjuun, jos osaat.

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      Nah. I’m an antifascist. If something looks like a fascist and acts like a fascist it is fascist.

      In this thread:

      Everything I don’t like is fascist.