• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    In the cases of France and Germany, the answer was violence. Oppression has never been defeated with pacifism. If history is our guide and conservatives are our oppressors, soon we may have to make some very difficult life and death decisions.

    Conservatives have already embraced violence as part of their ideology, which I think makes the path out of their oppression more clear.

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      11 months ago

      Oppression has never been defeated with pacifism.

      I was taught that Gandhi helped India defeat the oppression of the British Raj with pacifism.

      Is that not the case? I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if Power taught me peaceful protest works every time.

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        11 months ago

        as Orwell stated:

        “As an ex-Indian civil servant, it always makes me shout with laughter to hear, for instance, Gandhi named as an example of the success of non-violence. As long as twenty years ago it was cynically admitted in Anglo-Indian circles that Gandhi was very useful to the British government. So he will be to the Japanese if they get there. Despotic governments can stand ‘moral force’ till the cows come home; what they fear is physical force.”

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        11 months ago

        I was taught that Gandhi helped India defeat the oppression of the British Raj with pacifism. Is that not the case?

        You couldn’t have Martin without Malcom and you couldn’t have Ghandi without Ghadar.

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      the choice of weather there will be violence isn’t ours to make, the conservatives have made it for us, and they chose violence. our choice is to resist or concede to fascism. conceding won’t make the violence stop, it will only make it worse and don’t let anyone convince you otherwise