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      She was not a “career politician” if you want that word to have any meaning. She was a civilian until like '98.

      She also wasn’t elderly or uninspiring.

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        she was a but uninspiring tbh that’s why she lost nobody wanted to pokemon go to the polls for her

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          Maybe among the young and disconnected. The reason she lost in reality is that she was painted as a “corrupt politician” and tied to the Benghazi nothingburger while her opponent ran on populist anti-politician rhetoric

          The masses are dumb and fell for it.

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        The revolving door is a thing she was married to President…hmm what was his name I’m forgetting it, maybe it will come to me. Oh that’s right Bill! That’s his name! To say she’s not a career politician after being in or around politics her entire adult life is down right disingenuous. She represents the dem establishment there’s no question of that, but I’m sure you will enlighten me as to how I’m wrong. 🙄

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          It’s less that you’re personally wrong and more that your entire belief system here was built by Republican strategists and you are too uninformed to recognize it.

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            Why are you being this way lol?

            I was there for the election too. I remember what people said and felt. That absolutely was not Republican strategists.

            Republicans framed her as corrupt sure but she was genuinely uninspiring and represented the establishment. The public has distrust for her and Trump represented something new, he wasn’t the white bread Christian candidate the Republicans always pushed.

            She lost because candidates like Sanders and Stein were what people wanted, they had ideas to offer and she was a continuation of what people felt we had.

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              You’re explaining my own points back to me.

              Sanders was not what people wanted or they’d have voted for him

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                Lol except you’re arguing with everything I said here in other comments but sure.

                I literally said Hillary was uninspiring and you say “nuh-uh”

                Now you say Sanders isn’t what people wanted but it absolutely was lol

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                  If Hillary was uninspiring, it’s unlikely she’d have won the popular vote by roughly 3 million votes - the same amount she beat Sanders by in a much smaller pool of voters

                  She may not have inspired you, but that’s irrelevant

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                    Lol no she was uninspiring.

                    You’re being so disingenuous I’m wondering if you were even around during this time.

                    “Bernie Bros” was the DNC attempt to push people into Hillary. She shot herself in the foot several times over making people uninterested in voting for her or unsure in her leadership. The fainting, the Benghazi bullshit, the pokemon go to the polls, Clinton tie. Nobody wanted her.

                    The election you are talking about was between her and Trump so how does Bernie even factor into that? He doesn’t. Silly.

                    What you should really pay attention to is the political climate. Not one single voter today wants Hillary that’s why she doesn’t run, she’s done. Nobody would vote for her. People still want Bernie and the things he calls for.

                    You are outside your mind trying to tell anyone people wanted Hillary they literally didn’t. Go look at how well the Green party did that election. Go find the articles calling for Sanders to switch to green party, go look at how much Jill Stein was blamed for Hillary’s loss.

                    You’re clueless buddy.

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            I voted for Hillary in the general I didn’t fall for anything, but I can still recognise her flaws and want something better than the two options we’re spoon fed every election.

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              Lol “I voted for her but I still believe everything the Republicans said about her”

              That’s… I mean at least you’re useful.

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