I saw today new “merch” section below comments. I’m a premium users for a reason, I want 0 ads.

I just canceled my subscription and moved to yattee / invidious for good.

  • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3410·
    1 year ago

    Most people see it favorably to actually support creators they follow. Not this guy though, fuck the content creators trying to provide you content and try to make a living out of it.

    • Ziglin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      912·
      1 year ago

      They’re already getting the YouTube premium revenue and I doubt that they didn’t spend at least 10 seconds advertising it in their videos.

      • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
        61·
        1 year ago

        Oh, you have a serious source that indicate how youtube premium revenues are shared between the platform, the right holders, and the content creators, including how it is split between what you watch and what you don’t care about?

        • Ziglin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          1 year ago

          According to the YouTube content creator ‘The Spiffing Brit’ the revenue he receives per view from YouTube premium is higher than and revenue. So obviously it does help support the creator, though I’m sure YouTube makes more money off of it.

          • Crozekiel@lemmy.zipEnglish
            31·
            1 year ago

            Being “higher than ad revenue” on YouTube is a stupidly low bar. Ad revenue for videos has been plummeting like a rock for years. That’s why basically every big channel now either has merch, patron, or paid sponsorships / ads recorded by the creator as part of the video completely unrelated to YouTube.

  • bitsplease@lemmy.mlEnglish
    226·
    1 year ago

    It’s pretty wild how many people in this thread (and in general) don’t see youtubers as a business selling a product.

    Its great if you want to buy stuff from your favorite content creators shop, but the shop is there to make money. It makes money for their business. What do we call it when a business goes out of their way to show consumers their products in the hopes that they’ll purchase something? an advertisement. This isn’t something debatable lol, it’s literally the definition of the word.

    Its awesome if you wanna support your favorite content creators, it’s totally OK if you don’t personally mind seeing their shop below the video, a simple toggle would let you keep that. But an ad is an ad, and people are right to be frustrated that they’re being shown ads when they specifically paid extra money not to be shown them.

    • RGB3x3@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      YouTube is also showing products below video listings in the home page. Even before you click on it.

      See here:

      I pay for YT Premium. This is excessive.

  • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.eeEnglish
    15·
    1 year ago

    no ads, $10/month

    no ads except for the channel shop, $12/month

    no ads except for the channel shop and products/companies mentioned in the video, $15/month

    no ads except for the channel shop, products/companies mentioned in the video, and products/companies associated with concepts mentioned in the video, $20/month

    no ads except for the channel shop, products/companies mentioned in the video, products/companies associated with concepts mentioned in the video, and products/companies we think you might be interested in based on your viewing history, $25/month

    ads, $35/month

  • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
    92·
    1 year ago

    Reading through these comments, I can’t help but think there’s astroturfing happening here when every single comment seems to be saying the same thing nearly verbatim:

    “This is a huge overreaction!”

    “Most channels have excellent merch products!”

    “I like seeing merch ads on videos I watch!”

    It’s one thing to have links in the description or creators mentioning their merch in the video. It’s a whole other thing to have a banner in the client advertising products that take up nearly the same amount of screen space as the video itself. All these naysayers seemed to have been able to easily navigate to these shops and purchase merchandise before youtube started pushing it in our faces, so why is it necessary now, especially on accounts that are paying for premium? Should we also just accept additional ads outside the video from corporate sponsors since they also fund the channel directly? Where do you draw the line?

    • Chetzemoka@startrek.websiteEnglish
      43·
      1 year ago

      I mean. I like seeing merch from my favorite creators and sometimes I buy it. T-shirts are cool. It’s easier for me to know what’s available if there are thumbnails large enough for me to actually see the product.

      And these links appear below the video, they are not intrusive to the watching experience in any way whatsoever. So yeah, I genuinely think this is a huge overreaction.

      I pay for premium and not even once have I thought anything other than “oh cool, this channel has merch”

    • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      1 year ago

      No one here is astroturfing lol. People just don’t agree with you.

      This community is not large enough or significant enough for any sort of concerted astroturfing.

  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    Has anyone brought up how this is just like tipping? Youtube wants me to pay them (rather than the creator) but they decide how much the creator gets and then if I care about that creators brand I can buy creator merch.

  • MrMcGasion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    I’m fine with the merch window in the sidebar, although lately they’ve added an overlay on desktop that appears over the video (even in fullscreen) that I think is going to get annoying real quick if they keep it around. If I’m watching a video from a creator, there’s a good chance I’ll be interested in their merch, and having a standard place for creators to show off merch without having to shill it in every video, is a feature worth having IMO. But I don’t want anything overlayed on the video - especially in fullscreen, and if anything it makes me less likely to support the creator by buying merch - even though the overlay is almost certainly something Google added without any opt-in from creators.

  • willya@lemmyf.ukEnglish
    54·
    1 year ago

    That’s dumb. They should be able to have a merch store somewhere regardless. If you like them, you should think about giving them some money in some way. Not by only buying premium. This logic makes absolutely no sense to me.

      • willya@lemmyf.ukEnglish
        43·
        1 year ago

        To get rid of ads. To think that premium goes straight to the content creators you love is insane and even if it did… it’s not much.

      • SCB@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Premium removes the YouTube-placed ads within the video.

  • snorkbubs@fedia.io
    1·
    1 year ago

    People don’t seem too upset about this, so I’ll go off in another direction! The Youtuber doesn’t understand basic capitalization, in titles or sentences, and even the channel name is botched. To add some irony, the channel has “Learn” in its name.

    I’m not expecting English majors be consulted for every statement, but the most basic grammar, that small children learn, is certainly not too much to expect from an “educational” channel. That’s bottom-of-the-barrel, and they still can’t be bothered. Hell, there are dozens of websites that you can just drop text into, and the site will automatically fix your capitalization, instantly, for free.

    They describe themselves as an “advanced level” education channel. You can’t even get away with that kind of sloppiness in junior high, so the actual channel “level” is likely below that. If they can’t be bothered with such a basic detail, we should not trust anything else they have to say.

    Apologies for the digression, and the rant. This is mildly infuriating, but I feel better now.

    • Aatube@kbin.social
      11·
      1 year ago

      Knowledge or choice on application of grammar rules is unrelated to military knowledge and education.

      • snorkbubs@fedia.io
        03·
        1 year ago

        I strongly disagree. How does one even acquire knowledge of military history without language skills? Youtube videos, TV shows, and movies are not “advanced level education” (their words), but writing research papers is. Even if they somehow soak up the knowledge without reading, if they can’t write at a higher level than what I’m expecting here, they’re going to fail their classes. Hell, they won’t even make it to college.

        This person is either lazy, sloppy, ignorant, apathetic, or some combination of those. Why on Earth would I want them as a teacher, when there are millions of other educators who don’t have these issues? It’s a red flag is all; that’s my entire point. Of course, there are brilliant educators who cannot write, but the vast majority of people who have gone through higher education know how capitalization works in sentences. Again, just a red flag, not an absolute. There’s no need to gamble; we owe this person nothing.

        Basic language skills aren’t an above-and-beyond expectation from someone calling themselves an educator, it’s baseline. When even that’s not met, it brings doubt to everything else they may say. Maybe you’re fine with that, I am not.

  • Unaware7013@kbin.social
    23·
    1 year ago

    Why do you expect people to take this seriously? A YouTuber advertising their merch in a place you had to go to to even see is the dumbest anti-youtube complain I have seen.

  • Mereo@lemmy.caEnglish
    25·
    1 year ago

    That’s a very extreme view, my friend. A lot of Youtubers come up with good products. For example, LevelOneTechs has come up with a pretty good KVM that a lot of mainstream companies haven’t been able to perfect. So I enjoy it when Youtubers advertise their merch.