• MonkRome@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Morally pure ideologues that refuse to work with others enjoy all the benefits of knowing they are right while making none of the decisions. Democracies involve consensus and coalition building.

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      5 hours ago

      Indeed. You would think the Democrats would go after independents and leftists/progressive voters instead of shifting to the right.

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        The right has moved so far to the right that the “independents” are the ones that used to be right. That’s why you’re seeing all these pre Trump Neo Cons supporting Harris. They’re trying to target people like my mom. People that don’t like Trump but are still “Republican”.

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        This whole godforsaken country has gone Nazi-curious, and you think going hard left is going to win the election? You gotta be kidding me.

        I’m pretty heavily progressive myself, but you won’t see me complaining about Harris pulling people like Cheney into a coalition. That’s how you win.

        You can be ideologically pure, or you can win, but you can’t do both.

        Convince your fellow Americans to not be Nazi-curious any more. Only then can the Democrats shift left without getting annihilated.

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        Shit take, brah. This election is going to be decided by tens of thousands of votes from among fuckwits who refuse to see what’s plainly visible. Harris needs to get their votes, not the leftists. How many fucking leftists do you think live in suburban and rural districts in fucking Pennsyltucky?

        Can’t tell if you’re dim or just stirring shit.

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        It just isn’t as good of a political strategy to go after progressives, who the DNC knows overwhelmingly vote dem regardless. The number of leftists who won’t vote for the democrats just isn’t high enough for them to care, which unfortunately means they pivot towards moderates, independents, and moderate republicans in basically every election

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    If you and everyone you know could convince your GOP family members to either vote Democrat or just to sit this one out, and say so in the polls beforehand, the Dems wouldn’t have to court the disaffected Republicans this way. There’s not enough hard leftists to sway the election, even if they could all be mobilized to vote for Harris.

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      This is why centrists exist. We vote left currently, because of insane people on the right who take advantage of the weakness of partisan mentalities.

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      I would wager that there’s more people on the left disillusioned with the Democrats over their Israel policy than there are Republicans who would be swayed by Liz Cheney.

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    As if supporting the Israeli genocide wasnt enough, now Harris is proudly campaigning with a family of war criminals.